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Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending May 11th, 2008 {Engadget HD}

May 17th 2008 4:47PM Sadly for you JDS the truth is not as cut and dried as you want to imply.

By buying into HD DVD I took a gamble, yes ok, that' true.
But a very low cost high value gamble.

I also bought myself a superb DVD player (both in terms of audio & visual output) the equal of Denons etc many times it's price.

There's not a single Blu-ray player on the market you can say that about, in fact a regularly disappointing SD DVD performance looks as if it is an intended 'attribute' of many of them (so the buyers can claim to be 'wowed' by the difference?)

.....and you're still swerving the point and hiding behind HD DVD.
$6 million is laughably tiny.
That's Blu-ray's 'performance' today.
It's pitiable.

Like I said, Blu-ray the really dumb choice, ensuring high def movies stay a high margin low volume niche product & fail to take off on disc.
Good job guys. Not.

Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending May 11th, 2008 {Engadget HD}

May 17th 2008 9:49AM "Consumers spent $6.56 million on Blu-ray discs"

Hilarious.......and that's after several weeks of heavily being down.
You couldn't make it up.

I hear it's all going to turn around when 'X' title hits (seems like the Blu-ray support has retreated back to claim "just you wait until titles X, Y & Z hit, it'll all turn great then!"
Same Sh!t different day. Just like we all heard before about Spiderman, Casino Royal, X-Men blah blah blah.

Next week sales might be up......and so what.

100% more of almost f*ck all is still f*ck all.

I love this weekly thread, it really is very very funny.

Blu-ray, the really dumb choice of high def format:
guaranteeing high def movies fail to take off in the mass-market for years.

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 15th 2008 8:36PM Wow, a joint venture and some quibbling over phrasing/terminology.

Now that's what I call reaching.

The truth is JDS you'll not see any Blu-ray branded Toshibas.

They're going Super Upconversion built into HD TVs and SD DVDs and the public is going to love it.

It doesn't matter that it's only starting to happen now in laptops & later this year and into next with the TVs & DVD players.

Blu-ray is going nowhere in the meantime except further up the PS3 deadend.

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 15th 2008 9:44AM OK, going to play dumb now are we Mr E?

I mean, you only happen to be looking at the results of the latest survey of 2500 people
(which contrary to the ignorant & absurd claims of some here is actually a high number of people in the sample in this sort of statistical exercise).

The "loads of people" are the buying public who in survey after
survey say that they do not think Blu-ray is 'worth' the premium it
demands over upscaled regular SD DVD.

You guys can cry & whinge about this as much as you like and you can
look down your noses about how it's none of it is 'real' 1080p
(as if that really matters too much the vast majority with a 32" -
50" HD TV anyways),
you can complain all you like at this truth but it still remains
the truth.

The buying public in the a/v mass-market
(as is very clear from their buying behaviour)
does not think Blu-ray is 'worth it'.

It's going to be even less 'worth it' when Super Upconversion is a
built-in feature in many HD TVs and SD DVD players - particularly when HDi comes with them too.

The fact that the Super Upconversion will work with everyone's existing SD DVD collection is the killer punch which guarantees that Blu-ray remains a high margin, high priced niche going nowhere.

(but then you lot have been kidding yourselves all along that 'the
industry' ever really expected or wanted it any different)

Sorry and all guys but you too bought into a dead & short-lived
format.
Pity you didn't even get the benefit of HD DVDs tiny prices, eh?

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 14th 2008 7:54PM ....oh and HDi is coming to regular/Super Upconverting DVD players too.

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 14th 2008 7:52PM Absolutely nothing "mythical" about Super Upconversion.

It's going to be built in to the next gen Toshiba HD TVs and into regular DVD players.

No need for another disc format and it works with everybody's existing SD DVD collection.

Let's face it, if loads of people already say they cannot see the difference between Blu-ray & SD DVD being worth the premium what on earth are they going to make of the difference between Super Upconversion & Blu-ray?

The mass-market could care less about Blu-ray's occasional use of wasteful bloated uncompressed audio so that is hardly going to matter either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qxa1zv5uI&feature=related

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 14th 2008 6:20PM Commendable sentiments!

Sadly for the willingly bilked Blu-ray gang not only do they have to see their beloved format rendered incapable of taking SD DVDs place due to market changes (think people not thinking the advantage worth it compared to cheap upscaled SD DVD, downloads, VOD and HD TV services) but they have the next challenge coming from SD DVD and suitably equipped HD TVs.

Super Upconversion (which works on everyone's existing SD DVD discs).

The idea that in 4 years time good quality SD DVD players will be within $25 of a decent Blu-ray player is simply not credible.
I'll believe that when I see it.......and I can afford to wait, quite happily.
Sadly for Blu-ray it can't afford that sort of wait.

In any event the Blu-ray gang have specifically said they wanted Blu-ray as a high margin niche to make up for falling margins on SD DVD.
It's never going to be cheap.......at least nothing like in time to withstand the next high def moves which genuinely do attract the mass-market.

More research asserts that Blu-ray adoption isn't apt to surge soon {Engadget HD}

May 14th 2008 5:51PM Imagine my surprise.

Blu-ray, it always was the really really dumb choice for seeing HDMs get mass adoption.

Here comes exactly what you said you wanted, a short-lived high-margin high price niche.
You're going to get exactly what you deserve.

Well done to all those who 'supported' it. Not.

LMAO

LG to halt production of Super Blu combo players, launch Blu-ray deck this year {Engadget HD}

May 14th 2008 1:21PM LG (and Samsung's) problem here was always that their combo units rarely looked good value compared to a seperate of each format.

Particularly now.

Anyone with an HD DVD collection looking to safeguard their future viewing ought to either pick up a very inexpensive Toshiba standalone
or if you are interested in PC connectivity then get hold of the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on to use as a ROM drive.

I've just got mine to tuck away from Amazon Germany with an HD DVD movie I was after
(which took the price just over €20 for the cheaper carriage price)
including delivery for a whole £21/$42!
(this also includes the universal remote)!

You just can't beat that sort of value.

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