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Oh, what is the point of upscaling 1080p content to 2160p that would make this set worth whatever premium this 56-inch set (and how close will have to sit to that monster to see whatever small difference it makes?) is over a similar 55 to 58inch 1080p LCD or Plasma?

As we all said with Toshiba's upscaling DVD players...you can't recreate data that isn't there.

If you are going to bash Toshiba saying upscaled DVD is HD...I don't think you should get terribly excited about a 2160p display when we don't have content in that format to take advantage of it.



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Correct it won't be as good as real 3,840 x 2,160 source material, BUT you can at least interpolate and make a calculated guess as to what the extra pixels should/coul be, and with extra processing power you can process a larger perhaps even the whole frame, previous and upcoming frames to make an even better calculated guess.]]>Jan 7th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
Show Darren a very flashy spec - 2160p! - far ahead of anyone else's and suddenly he's all ears and willing to give it a chance.

Shame you couldn't see this (rather obvious development actually) coming whilst you slammed Toshiba & the Cell based upscaling all last year, eh Darren?

I just wonder how long before the regular Sony fanclub roll in to slam this and start talking about their new sudden interest in screen sizes, resolution & viewing distances?

Very funny.]]>Jan 7th 2009 6:34AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/If this technology helps make things look better, then its a good thing.
Who cares who made it or if you like Blu-Ray or not, and sure, there's a cell in the PS3 so this upscaling technology could be applied there if Sony wanted to license it from Toshiba.
Why does any of this above matter or need to go down that stupid road?
If anything, you're the one trying to start the flow of stupid fanbiy comments!]]>Jan 7th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
heh would go great with blu-ray!!!

now if only they could get along with other manufacturers and license the tech. rofl. ]]>Jan 7th 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/Jan 7th 2009 8:15AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/Jan 7th 2009 8:35AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
Just like XDE, this is something I'd have to see with my own eyes before I start getting excited, but at least it would make the walk over to the Toshiba booth worth the time.]]>Jan 7th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
Actually, I'm surprised the Blutards haven't come in with a "Toshiba releases TV that makes Blu-ray discs look worse than native content" claim. I mean, c'mon, this is Toshiba! They're EHD's whipping boy! You surely can come up with some poorly argued rant at them to go with the "Why will Toshiba not make a Blu-ray player I wouldn't buy anyway?" whines.

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What's with the attitude?
If this technology helps make things look better, then its a good thing.
Who cares who made it or if you like Blu-Ray or not, and sure, there's a cell in the PS3 so this upscaling technology could be applied there if Sony wanted to license it from Toshiba.
Why does any of this above matter or need to go down that stupid road?
If anything, you're the one trying to start the flow of stupid fanbiy comments!]]>Jan 7th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
As far as the last part of my post goes, that your redundant comment was vaguely relevant to, if you don't like it, don't dish it out. Murph has posted story after story after story criticizing Toshiba's lack of support for Blu-ray, even though it's fairly obvious why a company that just lost $1B on pushing an HD optical format that sees online downloads as the future isn't going to make a Blu-ray player right now.

If EHD doesn't want to be criticized for being stupid, it needs to stop being stupid. You defending it from mean old people like me who call EHD on their bizarre attacks, isn't going to stop EHD from being criticized.
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My point being, no one is posting complaints yet you're prevoking a fight with the above comment.

FYI:
Many of the Joystiq family's writters are stupid, that's not news and yes I know not all of my comment relates to yours ...hense cut and paste.]]>Jan 7th 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/Jan 7th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/
If Toshiba selling cell-based upscaling DVD players to take 480i/p content and upscale it to 720p/1080i/1080p is considered something to be ridiculed, then why give them praise for upconverting 1080p to 2160p for a 56" display which is probably too small to make any meaningful difference?

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Yes technically true 2160p would look better than upscaled to 2160p, however saying its pointless or whatever is stupid. Granted it wont be as noticeable a difference as upscaling from 480p to 1080p, going from 1080p to 2160p will be an improvement. And isn't that what we all want? ]]>Jan 7th 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/07/toshiba-showing-off-56-inch-cell-based-4k-x-2k-hdtv-prototype-m/Jan 8th 2009 5:16PM