Poor Vizio. They try so hard but their independent test results always fall flat (they rank last in this year's motion resolution results). Given the choice between a 47" Vizio for $1100 and a 50" Panny VIERA for $1000, I'll obviously take the VIERA. If someone offered you a Chevy for $40,000 or a Porsche for $30,000, which would you choose?
Not quite sure that's an apples to apples comparison there. You're talking a 47" 1080p 120Hz LCD vs a 50" 720p plasma, and you're stating MSRP of $1100 on the LCD, which Vizios NEVER sell near - we'll see these things selling at Costco and Sams for under $1000 from day one, easily.
While the Panny Viera 720 plasmas have in general gotten excellent reviews, 47-50" is the point where in a typical living room you being to actually be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and now that you can get a BD player for a decent price, there's actually 1080p content to look at, and 120hz (if done properly) negates the fluidity advantage that plasma gives.
We'll have to wait and see how the new Vizios review and look in the real world (their last gen 120hz engine leaving some room for improvement), but at those price points it may be a better investment to get a top of the line Vizio than a bottom of the line Panny for the first time.
Take this into consideration, granted these are extremes but support Loban's example. The Pioneers are considerably the best sets in the market. Why is it that the 720p plasmas that they have make lcds and low end 1080p plasmas look like total crap.
Resolution is the least thing you should be worried about.
Panasonics that are 720p will look better with a blu-ray on it compared to a Vizio with 1080p especially if it has 120Hz.
The Vizio is good for the average consumer. Not to mention you're right they'll dip below $1k if sold at Costco.
But at the end of the day I assure you what it comes down to is picture quality and processors in these sets. And anyone who knows anything about picture quality will tell you the Panasonic 720p plasma will look better than Vizio 1080p lcd especially if it has 120 Hz.
I'm assuming here but it's a pretty educated guess that the Panasonic will still look better.
The car comparison works because they both are cares but what matters is the engine. Same thing with TVs.
dude- stop googling lcd vs plasma articles. its still pretty difficult to tell the edifference between 1080 and 720 on a GOOD 50" plasma set. plus IMHO, high contrast is what really makes a set standout, and Vizio lcds and plasmas have some of the worst datk detail iv'e laid eyes on. oh yeah, and you still lose about 40% of 1080i resolution with lcds.
It's true. Even the best LCDs lose about 400 lines of resolution or more on a moving image. Good Plasmas lose only about 100 to 200. It's more about moving resolution than native resolution unless you're looking at pictures all day on your TV.
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Loban @ Jan 7th 2009 11:58AM
Poor Vizio. They try so hard but their independent test results always fall flat (they rank last in this year's motion resolution results). Given the choice between a 47" Vizio for $1100 and a 50" Panny VIERA for $1000, I'll obviously take the VIERA. If someone offered you a Chevy for $40,000 or a Porsche for $30,000, which would you choose?
jeremyturnley @ Jan 7th 2009 12:09PM
Not quite sure that's an apples to apples comparison there. You're talking a 47" 1080p 120Hz LCD vs a 50" 720p plasma, and you're stating MSRP of $1100 on the LCD, which Vizios NEVER sell near - we'll see these things selling at Costco and Sams for under $1000 from day one, easily.
While the Panny Viera 720 plasmas have in general gotten excellent reviews, 47-50" is the point where in a typical living room you being to actually be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and now that you can get a BD player for a decent price, there's actually 1080p content to look at, and 120hz (if done properly) negates the fluidity advantage that plasma gives.
We'll have to wait and see how the new Vizios review and look in the real world (their last gen 120hz engine leaving some room for improvement), but at those price points it may be a better investment to get a top of the line Vizio than a bottom of the line Panny for the first time.
JM @ Jan 7th 2009 2:27PM
I agree with you Loban on your comparison.
@jeremyturnley
Take this into consideration, granted these are extremes but support Loban's example.
The Pioneers are considerably the best sets in the market. Why is it that the 720p plasmas that they have make lcds and low end 1080p plasmas look like total crap.
Resolution is the least thing you should be worried about.
Panasonics that are 720p will look better with a blu-ray on it compared to a Vizio with 1080p especially if it has 120Hz.
The Vizio is good for the average consumer. Not to mention you're right they'll dip below $1k if sold at Costco.
But at the end of the day I assure you what it comes down to is picture quality and processors in these sets. And anyone who knows anything about picture quality will tell you the Panasonic 720p plasma will look better than Vizio 1080p lcd especially if it has 120 Hz.
I'm assuming here but it's a pretty educated guess that the Panasonic will still look better.
The car comparison works because they both are cares but what matters is the engine. Same thing with TVs.
coreylucas @ Jan 7th 2009 4:56PM
@jeremyturnley
dude- stop googling lcd vs plasma articles. its still pretty difficult to tell the edifference between 1080 and 720 on a GOOD 50" plasma set. plus IMHO, high contrast is what really makes a set standout, and Vizio lcds and plasmas have some of the worst datk detail iv'e laid eyes on. oh yeah, and you still lose about 40% of 1080i resolution with lcds.
Loban @ Jan 7th 2009 5:07PM
It's true. Even the best LCDs lose about 400 lines of resolution or more on a moving image. Good Plasmas lose only about 100 to 200. It's more about moving resolution than native resolution unless you're looking at pictures all day on your TV.