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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Truth Teller 3 @ Dec 18th 2008 12:21PM
Darren's selective quoting & vendetta against Toshiba continues
(and all over one single source/review).
Here's something you might have picked out as a general comment to the 1080p fanboys Darren -
"As do most LCD HDTVs available in 2008, the 46XV545U has a native resolution of 1080p. However, at this screen size it's very difficult to tell the difference between 1080p and lower resolutions."
As for Darren's claims about the SRT (which is not btw the 'spurs engine' Cell design), the article actually says this -
"SRT Super Upconversion is one of the main selling points of this TV, and when we switched it on, the differences were not subtle.
The main effect of SRT that we could discern was to introduce edge enhancement, much like a TV's Sharpness control. There are three SRT modes in addition to an Auto setting, and Mode 1 introduced the least EE (aside from Off) and Mode 3 the most.
The artificial edges can increase perceived sharpness, which can seem to make low-quality material look more detailed.
In the Toshiba's case, compared with the Off setting, engaging SRT did improve the apparent detail of many areas, such as the bricks behind the waving American flag and the bridge in the Detail test.
However, we believe that's mainly because of Off's general softness compared with the other displays in our lineup."
Hardly the "joke" Darren claims.
Overall they have some nice things to say about this HD TV from decent blacks to good deinterlacing to good pull-down as well as some good anti-judder settings.
That alone places it above certain other brand's performance - especially at this $1300 price-point.
It's a $1300 46" HD TV.
Considering the price/performance it's pretty good in fact.
It won't be my next HD TV
(Samsung are my preferred brand for that and I'll be buying bigger & spending a lot more than $1300 next time, unfortunately)
but once again Darren's kicking out at anything bearing the Toshiba label is far more his problem, not Toshiba's.
JDS @ Dec 18th 2008 12:50PM
yo TT3, do you work for Toshiba?
or a better question is y do u care????
your post reads like you are in sales & marketing for Toshiba????
or is it that you have to much time & nothing to do?
this is right from the CNet review:
Toshiba is trying to corner the market on "turns your standard-def into high-def!" hype. One recent attempt was the XD-E500 DVD player, which trumpeted funky and ultimately disappointing "XDE" video processing in attempt to lure buyers. Now there's the more elaborate "SRT Super Upconversion" moniker, which promises that "all your DVDs and TV channels will be displayed in near High Definition picture quality." According to our tests of the 46-inch 46XV545U, that's "even less true than you might expect". Turning SRT on does make some standard-definition sources appear a bit sharper compared with leaving it off with this display, but "at the expense of artificially enhanced images that don't look much like high-definition" to us. Fortunately for its final score, the 46XV545U gets the basics mostly right.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/toshiba-46xv545u/4505-6482_7-33248757.html
daaper @ Dec 18th 2008 1:26PM
What are you talking about? CNET clearly listed the SRT feature under the "bad".
CNET: "The bad: Inaccurate primary color of green and cyan; subpar uniformity; proprietary upconversion circuit introduces edge enhancement; lackluster design."
See? There it is right there, just like Darren said.
Truth Teller 3 @ Dec 18th 2008 12:21PM: "As for Darren's claims about the SRT (which is not btw the 'spurs engine' Cell design)"
First of all, nobody said anything about a "'spurs engine' Cell design". Second, that's not Darren's claim. CNET was the one who said it's gimmicky...which isn't exactly a glowing remark for the technology.
CNET: "The bottom line: Consider the midprice Toshiba 45XV545U for its decent overall picture quality, not its gimmicky standard-definition processing."
Truth Teller 3 @ Dec 18th 2008 12:21PM: "Overall they have some nice things to say about this HD TV from decent blacks to good deinterlacing to good pull-down as well as some good anti-judder settings."
And so did Darren, if you'd even bothered to read what he wrote. The only thing he really knocked was the same thing CNET did: the SRT. The rest he said was a "decent experience", which is exactly what a 3 of 5 means...not bad, but not great. Good black, but bad color accuracy. Good de-judder mode, but bad uniformity. Sounds like an average tv to me...
You talk about Darren cherry-picking, but I would say that it's you doing it. I know you dislike pretty much anything Darren writes, but I would say he was much closer to the tone of the review than you are.
Truth Teller 3 @ Dec 18th 2008 2:11PM
Give over guys.
Anything a with a Toshiba tag gets slammed by Darren.
daaper @ Dec 18th 2008 2:54PM
Just did a "Toshiba" search and looked through some of his articles. Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Most of his articles were praising them on just about everything. The only ones I could find slamming them were the ones saying that this SRT upconversion was the best thing ever and we're starting to see now, it isn't.
Maybe you should have a look back too. I think your memory maybe be tainted red...
Gus @ Dec 18th 2008 6:18PM
Sorry daaper, you can stop the sucking now, DM smashes Toshiba at every opportunity he gets, to say any different is a joke, he knows , we know it, your crawling for no good reason.
daaper @ Dec 18th 2008 7:06PM
So to all you who are complaining about Darren's article, you would honestly take this tv over all the Samsung LCDs and Panny plasmas that are easily in this price range?
Samsung PN50A650
Samsung PN50A550
Panasonic TH-50PF11UK
Samsung LN46A550 (this one's actually quite a bit cheaper)
Panasonic TH-46PZ85U (as is this one)
If you can honestly say you'd take this tv over the ones above, then I guess I have nothing more to say. Even if Darren has been toshiba-biased in the past (and I'm not saying he has), that doesn't mean he's wrong about this. The review wasn't that great and I agree with Darren that there are better sets in this price range. This thing was supposed to break from the pack because of its SRT feature and apparently it didn't...CNET's words, not Darren's. All he was doing was passing along the info.
Gus @ Dec 18th 2008 8:18PM
Your missing the point daaper, TT3 said he wouldn't buy it, the issue is not about this TV, the issue is about DM hanging Toshiba out to dry regardless if the product is good or bad at every opportunity. He has had a personal vendetta against Toshiba that shines through unashamedly in all his unbalanced Toshiba articles.
Hey, it gets a response, and it drives traffic to the site, so he's done his job, but it is most definitely one eyed and very biased journalism that harks back to the format war and the obvious hard on he has for blu ray and sony.
You must be relatively new here daaper, there has been an ongoing "dialogue" with Darren Murphy and a number of readers here regarding Toshiba and DM's love of belting them over anything and everything for a very LONG time.