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I can't wait for this!]]>Nov 28th 2008 4:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
Not to mention, some BD players (including my Sharp) can't decode Dolby TrueHD at 24 bit...weird and frustrating.]]>Nov 28th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/Nov 28th 2008 5:13PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
What happened to the promise of amazing audio thanks to Blu-ray's capacity?

@ TrentD

If your BD player is too old & low spec to play everything properly then that's your fault,
the BDA don't give a f**k, "you knew what you were getting into" apparantly.
.... or at least you ought to have.]]>Nov 29th 2008 12:38PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
http://bit.ly/13wmy]]>Nov 28th 2008 6:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
Just goes to show the big movie companies don't care about quality. I hope the movie industry doesn't need a buyout next.]]>Nov 28th 2008 6:53PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/ 16 bit 44.1 khz is bearly CD quality sound.

Er, that's exactly the specs for compact discs, and always has been!]]>Nov 28th 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/Nov 28th 2008 9:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
And for LB saying that there should be a minimum requirement for "96 kHz" in audio quality for Blu-ray, most American films are shot with 24-bit/48 kHz wave files with the post-production done in the same bit depth and sampling rate.

Older films (i.e. before digital location sound mixing) can be done even higher than 24/48. The recent BR release of Baraka as a DTS-MA 24/96 track as well as the Tai Seng release of Peter Chan's Perhaps Love. The upcoming BR release of Katsuhiro Otomo's Akira will also be coming out with a 24/96 track next year.]]>Nov 28th 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/Nov 29th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
What? Sony has been releasing most of their latest titles with 24-bit PCM/Dolby TrueHD/DTS-MA sound.

Here's a few titles:
Hancock
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
30 Days of Night
Dogma
Drillbit Taylor
The Fall
Gattaca
Immortal Beloved
Made of Honor
Monty's Python's Life of Brian
Paprika
The Professionals
Resident Evil Trilogy
Run Lola Run
Spider Man 2
Spider Man 3
Surf's Up
We Own the Night
Youth Without Youth

The reason why Dark Knight is special is because it was shot, mixed, and mastered at 24-bit and WB gives us 16-bit downconverts for the "lossless" soundtrack. They might as well just give us only the lossy Dolby Digital track.

]]>Nov 29th 2008 6:40PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
human ears can only resolve around 11-13 bits of your 16/24 bits of audio you're demanding. please go to hydrogenaudio or avsforum to prove otherwise.

Sound Designer Dan: has this been a recent change? multiple sources on AVSForum claim that most films are mixed (or at least final mixdown) at 16bit (however last i bothered to take note of discussions like this was 6-12 months ago). i know for a fact that presentation outside of 100% digital projection are 16/44.1 (DTS APT-X100).

i'm surprised people aren't complaining more about the EE. it's pretty ugly in lossless screenshots. i personally won't make a judgement until i can watch an untouched copy of it (which may have to wait until xmas). my only complaint is that there's no "theatrical presentation" in case the AR changes are too noticeable due to everyone's smaller-than-IMAX screens.]]>Nov 29th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/
As I know, it's only recently (post-2006) that most studio films are mixed down at 24-bit/48 kHz. Pre-2006, only the biggest studio blockbusters (i.e. Spider Man 2, Pirates of the Caribbean 1) were mixed down at 24/48.

Don't listen to those guys at AVSForum, they don't know what they're talking about. What I'm really angry about is that our workflow (location sound/ADR/SFX/stems/mixdown/mastering) on the Dark Knight was completely 24/48 and yet WB decided to use 16/48 downconverted "masters" for the TrueHD track of the film. I'm also disappointed with those Blu-ray shots with EE because the DI of the film looked absolutely jaw-dropping. ]]>Nov 29th 2008 8:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/11/28/the-dark-knight-blu-ray-disc-review-roundup/Nov 29th 2008 11:05PM