Sounds like numbers twisting to me, they have no reference to what "on a volume basis" means, and it also doesn't make references to what volumes DVD equipment is shipping and what kind of equipment is being referred to. The problem with comparison between new and old equipment is older equipment will sell less and less over time as demand decreases because to continue to sell the same volumes of a device that device would have to have a point where failure rate equals a large portion of the purchase rate, which doesn't happen.
Its actually true! Blu-ray adoption is going pretty well in Japan because in Japan, DVDs still cost $25-$40.00 at most rental or retail big box stores. I was shocked at the prices of dvd when I visited Japan. I wanted to show my girlfriend the movie Edward Siccorhands ...spelling? because she loves Johnny Deepe. The darn movie cost me 2500 en or roughly $25.00 and that movie is ...10? years old! They have never really decreased the price on dvds like they have in north america.
So seeing a price tag of $40.00 for blu-ray and seeing the dvd for $35.00, honestly, people aren't as hard pressed to choose the blu-ray in Japan. Its quite a different situation than here where you'll see a price tag of $13.00 on the dvd and seeing $40.00 on the blu-ray or even $25.00 on amazon.
But seriously, you can't judge the Japanese people with Western standards in mind. They have a completely different culture out there that embraces the best new technologies. They also like to have physical items instead of digital downloads/recordings. That's why downloadable games haven't really taken off over there.
@ Wes: No offense but maybe you need to shop a bit more carefully while in Japan. If you go to Tower Records, or similar shops, you'll be paying those prices. That's everywhere in the world. I bought plenty of DVDs around Japan, including new releases, for the same price found here in the USA. And there are plenty of "used/like new" stores around town. "Hard Off" is one of them. Yes, it does exist and it's named "Hard Off." If you were out to impress with your wealth, that's fine. But, there are plenty of places to shop and get great prices. Anyone that pays airport stores' prices deserves to be ripped off.
Japan is no different from the U.S. If you want to find deals, you don't go to the stores located in tourists' areas. One thing I loved about shopping in Japan is that the price on the label is not the final price. You can get them to lower it if you persist enough. In my experience, when it comes to negotiating, Japanese shop owners are not as flexible as the Chinese. But, you can get a few yens off.
Back to the main topic, these numbers seem a bit manipulated in my eyes. I'd go along with the argument that BD is gaining. But, not by that much.
Yes, you can buy used discs form Hard Off which at the Matusdo JR station is right across form the Tetsuya that sells dvds but there's certain concerns that always arise when buying used goods. My thats cheap? is it good quality? did the previous owner take care of the discs? are there scratches? will it be playable in the dvd player when I take it home? or do I want to buy a new one that I know will work.
Regardless, even the used dvds are much more expensive than used dvds in North America. Used DVDs in North America can easily be 4-5 dollars. In Japan, used dvds are as expensive as new dvds here.
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why not the LS2LS7? @ Oct 23rd 2008 1:33PM
I don't actually believe this. I'd love it to be true, but I can't think how it can be. Maybe it only counts recorders?
3dpenguin @ Oct 23rd 2008 2:41PM
Sounds like numbers twisting to me, they have no reference to what "on a volume basis" means, and it also doesn't make references to what volumes DVD equipment is shipping and what kind of equipment is being referred to. The problem with comparison between new and old equipment is older equipment will sell less and less over time as demand decreases because to continue to sell the same volumes of a device that device would have to have a point where failure rate equals a large portion of the purchase rate, which doesn't happen.
Wes @ Oct 23rd 2008 3:20PM
Its actually true! Blu-ray adoption is going pretty well in Japan because in Japan, DVDs still cost $25-$40.00 at most rental or retail big box stores. I was shocked at the prices of dvd when I visited Japan. I wanted to show my girlfriend the movie Edward Siccorhands ...spelling? because she loves Johnny Deepe. The darn movie cost me 2500 en or roughly $25.00 and that movie is ...10? years old! They have never really decreased the price on dvds like they have in north america.
So seeing a price tag of $40.00 for blu-ray and seeing the dvd for $35.00, honestly, people aren't as hard pressed to choose the blu-ray in Japan. Its quite a different situation than here where you'll see a price tag of $13.00 on the dvd and seeing $40.00 on the blu-ray or even $25.00 on amazon.
benny boy @ Oct 23rd 2008 3:14PM
Hey, those Japanese are a strange lot.
But seriously, you can't judge the Japanese people with Western standards in mind. They have a completely different culture out there that embraces the best new technologies. They also like to have physical items instead of digital downloads/recordings. That's why downloadable games haven't really taken off over there.
Rob @ Oct 23rd 2008 3:33PM
@ Wes:
No offense but maybe you need to shop a bit more carefully while in Japan. If you go to Tower Records, or similar shops, you'll be paying those prices. That's everywhere in the world. I bought plenty of DVDs around Japan, including new releases, for the same price found here in the USA. And there are plenty of "used/like new" stores around town. "Hard Off" is one of them. Yes, it does exist and it's named "Hard Off." If you were out to impress with your wealth, that's fine. But, there are plenty of places to shop and get great prices. Anyone that pays airport stores' prices deserves to be ripped off.
Japan is no different from the U.S. If you want to find deals, you don't go to the stores located in tourists' areas. One thing I loved about shopping in Japan is that the price on the label is not the final price. You can get them to lower it if you persist enough. In my experience, when it comes to negotiating, Japanese shop owners are not as flexible as the Chinese. But, you can get a few yens off.
Back to the main topic, these numbers seem a bit manipulated in my eyes. I'd go along with the argument that BD is gaining. But, not by that much.
Wes @ Oct 23rd 2008 10:50PM
Yes, you can buy used discs form Hard Off which at the Matusdo JR station is right across form the Tetsuya that sells dvds but there's certain concerns that always arise when buying used goods. My thats cheap? is it good quality? did the previous owner take care of the discs? are there scratches? will it be playable in the dvd player when I take it home? or do I want to buy a new one that I know will work.
Regardless, even the used dvds are much more expensive than used dvds in North America. Used DVDs in North America can easily be 4-5 dollars. In Japan, used dvds are as expensive as new dvds here.