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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Multi-format-mayhem @ Oct 15th 2008 9:41AM
Perhaps.
But really, so what? What difference will it make?
HD DVD already showed that (and this was in a time of no slump/recession) that nothing much happens until you hit $99.
Traders all over the western world are seeing sales plummet right now as the economic crisis begins to bite - and it has not even really got going yet.
Unemployment is climbing and credit is vanishing.
It'll last for years too.
In case people have missed it the IMF are warning of a "global financial melt-down".
European Govs alone have bailed out their insane financial sectors to the tune of $2 trillion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3FTBre5jVZo&refer=home
The US deficit after this single round of disaster is about to hit another $2 trillion
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/bank-us-government/2008/10/15/
So, where is the money to come from?
Govs have 2 choices, tax the people to pay it back or allow inflation to rip to reduce the value of the debt - and you can guess which (easier) option they will prefer.
Whatever happens higher prices are undoubtedly on the way and credit will be much tighter and this means the public's spending priorities are unlikely to stray too far beyond the necessities, at least for some time.
In 12mths time (no matter what small blip this black friday or X-mas period brings) the last thing on the general public's mind is going to be an expensive new video format, no matter what those devoted here might imagine.
DrXym @ Oct 15th 2008 10:26AM
Let's recap some of the arguments you've chosen to hate on blu recently.
1. Blockbusters sell more copies than thoughtful movies (even though the same is true on every format be it VHS, DVD, iTunes, HD DVD, Blu Ray or cinema) therefore Blu Ray sucks
2. Licence fees scared off some independent you know (even though its only 62 cents even for a small 10,000 disc run) therefore Blu Ray sucks
3. The government bailed out the banks (even though a downturn affects all consumer spending, not just one format) therefore Blu Ray sucks.
What stupid argument will you use next? Why do you even care if you hate the format so much?
okeygrak @ Oct 15th 2008 10:39AM
Bro,
Just give it up. Please. Your messages are simply a waste of electrons fired the faces of all the readers here who glance past the vomit smoothie that your brain is trying to connect into a cohesive statement.
You shamelessly hate blu-ray. You hate the adoption of a premium high definition format. You hate when players get cheaper, sales are up, adoption increases, and better content is released.
Unfortunately, the rest of the readers here. DO NOT.
MadDog @ Oct 15th 2008 11:24AM
But he did state that the release of Boondock Saints could be the reason he goes blu.
Also, it has been reported a lot, that in the times of financial crisis, consumer spending tends to shift towards home entertainment.
Multi-format-mayhem @ Oct 15th 2008 11:52AM
Seriously, when you have nothing left but talking about your 'love' or other people's (as you see it) 'hate' for a CE product maybe then is the time for a little reality check.
You might not want to admit the economic catastrophe that has just happened has wrecked any chance (already slim) Blu-ray had of replacing DVD but there it is.
$2 trillion in the US & $2 trillion in Europe - and that's just for starters.
But to you it's nothing, just facts to be written off as 'hate'.
Very funny.
PR campaigns are always screwed by everyday reality, always have been always will be.
Unlucky.
Suck it up.
Oh and Maddog, I already bought into Blu-ray, I have a very nice dual format player, thanks.
(maybe it was too subtle but the clue is in the nick)
benny boy @ Oct 15th 2008 1:03PM
Or you could say that because of the economic meltdown, that people will be spending more on home entertainment rather than spending money on going out, going on holiday etc...
Stop speaking as if you know exactly what's going to happen FFS.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Stop spreading your (rather biased) opinion around as if it is fact. People don't mind you having an opinion but when you try to show everyone how you can predict the future and you know exactly what's going to happen in the future, everyone starts to ignore the spin. If you want your OPINION to be respected, stop writing them all as facts.
Multi-format-mayhem @ Oct 15th 2008 1:26PM
@ benny boy
It's not a matter opinion as far as the unique & extremely dire state of the western economies go.
You'd have to be insane to ignore the credit crunch which entails a record $4 trillion in losses and debt, and that's only after stage 1 so far.
Then there's the small matter that this is coupled with a recession that was on the way anyway.
Only an idiot would try & pretend that this isn't going to have a massive effect on the consumer and retail spending - especially on a brand new and relatively expensive item like a new movie player format.
But feel free to live in denial of this if you like, no-one is stopping you.
DA @ Oct 15th 2008 1:45PM
Please reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/08/the-sky-is-falling-but-electronics-sales-are-soaring/
MadDog @ Oct 15th 2008 1:51PM
Now I see the light. It's not that you think blu-ray, or hi-def movies on disk are bad, it's that you feel that HD-DVD had the better chance to replace Dvd, since the players were down to $100 at Walmart (and still not selling). It's those awful PS3 gamers who bought 2-3 times the number of disks for blockbuster movies on blu-ray, rather than HD-DVD. I also supported both formats, but can look past the loss of HD-DVD to continue to see movies in their best home theater presentation.
Mark @ Oct 16th 2008 5:17AM
HDDVD players only went down to $99 because the format was dead. Walmart and others were just trying to clear their channels before the axe officially fell. Even before that both formats had nearly identical hardware requirements and therefore similar underlying costs so any price discrepancy was due to Toshiba subsidizing their players, not because they were "cheaper".
FFS 10 months on and people are still wailing at blu because their own video format lost. The tools exist to rip your HD DVD collection and transfer it to any format of your choosing or you can keep watching it on your player. Get over it and move on.