HDfury2 adapter kit tunnels HDCP-laden HDMI content via component / VGA
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Filed under: Misc, Other hardware, Ports
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
squiggleslash @ Aug 18th 2008 2:13PM
Wait, they're allowed to make this thing?
I thought it was a condition of the HDCP license that you never output decrypted signals, it remains encrypted until it appears on screen?
Ordeith @ Aug 19th 2008 12:48PM
No kidding. If they are allowed to make,market, and sell these things then what is the point of HDCP?
Just do away with HDCP and save us all the headache.
GhostDoggy @ Aug 21st 2008 5:30AM
I wonder if this falls into the realm that its legal to sell, but not use, or the reverse. Also, its made in one part of the world, sold in another, and a lot (most?) users are in the states trying to continue to use analog displays to watch content they already paid for.
This includes me. :)
trex1993 @ Aug 18th 2008 2:18PM
Legal filings beginning in three...two...one...
Juan C. Zorrilla @ Aug 18th 2008 2:52PM
The HDFury 1 did this same thing except just over VGA, which I use to connect an HD cable box to my Non-HDCP capable 22" lcd monitor. You can buy it from Monoprice for about $80. And no, there won't be any legal filings, The HDFury has been around for a while. It's only illegal if you use it for a purpose other than watching HDCP content on your legacy non-hdcp capable device.
steedums @ Aug 18th 2008 2:54PM
this isn't the first device that does this type of thing. HDMI & HDCP are just a hassle for consumers with handshake issues and whatnot. People who want to cheat the system still can. Component can handle 1080p. HDMI is great in that the signal is fantastic regardless of the cable. When and HDCP handshade issue arises though, you get no picture.
looseinthedeuce @ Aug 18th 2008 3:16PM
First off, I thought component video could only handle up to 1080i.
Second, I've only seen specs on TVs that list their component video inputs handle 480i/p, 720p, 1080i. I've never seen a TV's spec list 1080p over component video. And is that 1080p24/30/60?
Can anyone point to a TV that lists this?
UnnDunn @ Aug 18th 2008 5:28PM
Plenty of TVs accept 1080p over component now. They only started showing up in the past 18 months or so, though.
Phour ZwanZig @ Aug 19th 2008 12:38AM
My Sammy can do 1080p over Y/Pb/Pr but my HD-DVDs on my 360 would only play in 1080i over that input when games would play in 1080p, due to the HDCP rules. But when it comes down to it, HDCP isnt inportant yet.. If I recall, they had pushed back the compliance dates..
As far as this product, its fine cuz both connections are only Analog signals.. HDCP is only for Digital connections..
why not the LS2LS7? @ Aug 19th 2008 2:47AM
HDCP is important. The rules you speak of say you can't output anything over 480p over digital unless it has HDCP. Even upconverted DVDs. So digital output without HDCP is nearly useless.
The rules also say you can't upconvert to 1080p over component.
The rules also said that if the image constraint token is set, you can't output it over component at a resolution greater than 960x540. However, the companies involved agreed not to use the image constraint token until 2012 or something like that.
Note none of this is for technical reasons, it's all agreements. But still, it'll take away your functionality just the same.
FAUguy @ Aug 18th 2008 4:33PM
I have a Panasonic CT-36HX41 HDTV I purchased in 2001. It has two component inpunts, but no DVI or HDMI inputs. The TV's specs say it can display 1080i and upconvert 480i to 480p. I've never heard of any Component-only HDTV being able to display 1080p.
Big Sam @ Aug 18th 2008 9:24PM
There are plenty. My 42" 1080p Westinghouse LCD from 2006 can accept 1080p over component. So can my Samsung DLP.
J.Goodwin @ Aug 18th 2008 5:36PM
Both my LCD television (a Vizio) and my girlfriend's plasma (Element or some other non-name brand) accept 1080p signals over component. They're 720p displays.
No idea if there are any displays that physically have 1080 lines which accept 1080p over component though.
why not the LS2LS7? @ Aug 18th 2008 7:08PM
This does indeed violate the HDCP agreements. However, more power to 'em. HDCP is bad for the consumer.
joe1234 @ Aug 19th 2008 6:48AM
1000's of Pirated Blu-ray movies coming in 3, 2, 1!!!
squiggleslash @ Aug 19th 2008 1:39PM
Well, aside from the fact there aren't 1,000 Blu-ray movies (heh) there's also the small limitation that it's practically impossible to find non-pro (ie sub-$1,000) component-to-digital converters, which are a necessity if you want to convert it into a digital form.
There's also the not insignificant fact that Blu-ray's been cracked. BD+ serves not to prevent you from copying movies, just from playing them on a fraction legitimate players.
Most stupid Hollywood DRM system ever.
Eric @ Aug 19th 2008 4:52PM
Uh........ Blu-rays rips and encodes have been available for years.
Any why would you bother recording video when you could just copy the untouched files to your PC and player/reencode those?
Man, that a seriously stupid comment.
Mark @ Aug 20th 2008 5:00AM
Piracy hits the weakest link which is still the disk based encryption. You can create a perfect digital copy that way, or selectively strip out stuff you don't want. Capturing it from HDMI is probably a lot more effort since you probably need an expensive capture card and a fast PC and you end up degrading the image even before you've done anything to it.
J.Goodwin @ Aug 19th 2008 12:54PM
They'd have to get to 1000s of Blu-ray movies first.
Still, they're freely piratable already.
Kal @ Aug 20th 2008 10:03AM
I should be getting a pre-release HDfury2 soon and will comment on the quality vs. the original HDfury and some of the other HDMI converters available out there (I've tried them all). Stay tuned to the link provided above or sign up for the curtpalme.com newsletter.
Kal
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