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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Truth Teller @ Jun 27th 2008 9:59AM
He's dreaming and wrong.
The imminent prolonged recession across the world is what is going to ensure Blu-ray does not escape the game console niche
(even tho the US $'s fall has offset some of the increase elsewhere oil has increased by 5 times in cost compared to 3 times in the mid 1970s & doubling in the late 1980s).
A film has nothing to do with it in those circumstances.
It's timing and Blu-ray just hasn't been lucky enough with that.
Maybe if times were good and the economic outlook more favourable he might have a point but right now this is just the CE corps & movie industry desperately howling at the wind and talking up this mess however they can.
That and the fundamental truth that many many people are convinced that compared with SD DVD upscaled on their 32" - 50" HD TVs Blu-ray simply doesn't offer enough that they care about
(lossless audio is just irrelevant to most).
This even in the USA with 480i/p NTSC standard def, nevermind 576p PAL Europe.
JimC @ Jun 27th 2008 12:56PM
TT -
"That and the fundamental truth that many many people are convinced that compared with SD DVD upscaled on their 32" - 50" HD TVs Blu-ray simply doesn't offer enough that they care about
(lossless audio is just irrelevant to most).
This even in the USA with 480i/p NTSC standard def, nevermind 576p PAL Europe."
Where are you getting this crap? I have a 46" 1080p TV and I can very well tell the difference between SD and HD!!!! So stop making up crap and trying to push Upscaling. You're so disingenuous that it reeks. Before HD DVD died, HD with all its special bonus features and web enabled content was the shizzz but since it will be Blu-ray delivering that content, somehow all those shizzz features no longer matter? You sir are a punk fanboi, get over it....HD DVD LOST!!!! Either state that you don't like blu-ray and will stay with DVD but for heaven's sake man, we've heard the BS upscaling spin far too much now, no one believes it except your fellow HD DVD disgruntles....
Do you think evangelizing upscaling is truly going to keep blu-ray from being adopted? Why weren't you evangelizing upscaling over HD DVD????
Truth Teller @ Jun 27th 2008 1:50PM
Don't be so willfully obtuse JimC.
I never (and have never) said there was no difference.
The point is that the difference that there is (between upscaled SD DVD & high def), is, to a large segment of the public, just not worth the premium Blu-ray demands.
But you knew that anyway.
Carry on deliberately misrepresenting if you must.......
WebDev511 @ Jun 27th 2008 2:29PM
Well the studios HAVE to dream or the movies wouldn't be worth watching.
We'll see if Universal can make good on the promise, or if we're going to get another useless feature like community viewing.
@JimC
The vast majority of humans on the planet do not physically possess the visual acuity to differentiate 720p from 1080p on screens below 50". So TT's observation about joe six pack not being able to tell the difference between upconverted SD and Blu (or hd dvd for that matter) isn't some delusion.
Now that said, I don't think that upscaling will prevent adoption of Blu, but the real cost of upgrading to an HD setup combined with a tanking economy might.
EatingPie @ Jun 27th 2008 4:30PM
>That and the fundamental truth that many many
>people are convinced that compared with SD DVD
>upscaled on their 32" - 50" HD TVs Blu-ray simply
>doesn't offer enough that they care about
Gonna site all those statistics that have verified this oft-repeated statement?
No? Could it be because they don't exist? Yes, that's probably the reason.
I wish people would stop saying this. It's not true. There are no stats at all about upscaled vs. HD. Besides, every single person I've shown HD vs. Upscaled DVD to has picked HD. Every one, even those who have no idea what HD is. While I've hardly got anything scientific going here, it's still more than people who keep citing the above NON-EXISTENT "statistic" have done!
-Pie
Truth Teller @ Jun 27th 2008 5:52PM
* quote
EatingPie
Gonna site all those statistics that have verified this oft-repeated statement?
No? Could it be because they don't exist? Yes, that's probably the reason.
=====================================================
You must have missed it, the last one was posted here
(and IIRC it had a large - for this kind of statistical exercise - sample of well over 2000).
Sorry to puncture your myth but they do indeed exist.
WebDev511 @ Jun 27th 2008 10:12PM
@Eating Pie
"A person's ability to distinguish small details is described by visual acuity. When individual pixels are barely resolvable, increased resolution brings no benefit for the viewer, unless the viewing distance can be shortened or the display enlarged. For many users' television viewing distances, in order to see the full benefit from 1080p content a display must be bigger than usual or the viewing distance needs to be closer than usual. The ability of the eye to resolve 1080p content also depends on the amount of contrast in the picture. For optimum viewing of resolution it has been recommended that you sit back a maximum of approximately three times the height of your display."
That said, a1080p source on a 720p screen of 50" or less will look better than an upconverted DVD. Is the improvement enough to justify the current premium? For me it was, but Home Theater IS my hobby.