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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yep, a fix for a new version of BD+.  And as they release this "fix", there will be another new version of BD+ immediately afterwards.  <br><br>Granted, it seems like all copy protection schemes can be broken given enough brute force and or ingenuity, but for the movie industry to stay far enough ahead, they need to constantly and proactively changing their implementation or "version" of BD+.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[darkprime]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 2:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think that's exactly what they'll do. They'll start flipping the key and BD+ code not just per title but within individual batches. And combined with an increasing number of releases, AnyDVD will start suffering from large gaps in the number of supported titles. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DrXym]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 3:51PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[DrXym: Do you realize how expensive that would be? And BD+ isn't a simple system to produce multiple versions of anyway. You can get away with changing AACS volume keys every 10,000 discs without making it prohibitively expensive, but making different BD+ apps (BD+ works by writing physical software that verifies that its running on an unbroken player) that do not rely upon the same well-known presumptions is astonishingly difficult, if not impossible.<br><br>Worse, hacking BD+ that way would undermine Blu-ray even further. It's bad enough to be told "I'm sorry, but 'Hi-def Wars III - Return of the MPEG' doesn't work on the Sony BD09192-2 rev. 3 unless you have firmware versions 1.1-1.3, or 2.2-2.7, though the current version is 2.9", but at least you can find out for certain if it'll play on your player or not. If the disc maker makes several different versions of the BD+ access-control for a single disc, then there's no way to predict what will work on your equipment and what will not.<br><br>And again, with all due deference to your corporate masters Engadget: When are you going to tell them, publicly, so they can't ignore it, that BD+ is the showstopper that'll destroy Blu-ray? When are you going to stop whoring yourselves to WB by not warning your readers, many of whom are too stupid to think past "Whoah! Any criticism of Blu-ray is an HD DVD/Toshiba/Microsoft/{Insert other unlikely protagonist here} plot. Blu-ray won. It must be perfect" that, in its current form, this technology can and will result in them being repeatedly ripped off.<br><br>The joke here is this article: Blu-ray will, unless BD+ is dropped, be killed by an anti-piracy system that punishes legitimate customers. Meanwhile, those legitimate customers can solve their problems by either buying a tool designed to circumvent the anti-piracy system, or they can *download the movie over the Internet from someone who already bought the tool*.<br><br>Why is this happening? Why is Hollywood that stupid? And will Engadget not take a stand on it when the ultimate result will be just as damaging to WB as it will be to their (less informed, more fanboi-ish) readers?<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[squiggleslash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 19th 2008 9:13AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[squiggleslash, now you're being silly. Why is BD+ so much more expensive? BD+ is just a runtime that executes the code it is given. Code can be randomly generated you know. It would be very straightforward to (for example) create multiple BD+ apps that performs a simple mathematical calculation based off a few random bytes of some firmware version. Each batch could use different bytes and perhaps a random computation.<br><br>If there was a different BD+ scheme per batch, then SlySoft would be required to purchase discs from EVERY SINGLE BATCH to guarantee that the disc will play. And how do they collect a disc from every batch unless there is something on the label which tells them which batch? And if the computations require a genuine firmware, at what point does SlySoft expose itself to copyright infringement if it needs firmware to produce the answer?<br><br>It is quite obvious that BD+ will get more sophisticated and adopt these tactics. There is of course a QA overhead to doing this since players can't just stop working but if the cost of QA less than the loss in sales, it's something studios will do sooner or later, or farm out to certification labs.<br><br>BD+ was never claimed to be uncrackable. What it is though, and what SlySoft will ultimately discover is an increasingly expensive system to break. As the number of releases increases, and BD+ usage increases, and BD+ sophistication increases, major holes will appear in AnyDVD's support. They simply won't be able to keep up. At first it might mean waiting a week or two for a crack. Later it might mean waiting months or not getting a title at all. This is the whole point of BD+ - make it expensive and infeasible to crack every disc.<br><br>It will happen, mark my words.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DrXym]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 20th 2008 5:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[Impressive.. I havent even recieved the blu-ray I ordered of this movie and they allready broke the copy protection. <br><br>Thanks Sly Soft.. AnyDVD HD is worth every penny I paid for it. <br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[thomas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 3:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[The movie is just making slysoft rich. The only way to stop them is to dump bluray and create new hardware without any pc support. I]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[kevon27]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 4:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wonder how long it will be if ever that BD association just gives up created new forms of BD+.  Every change they make may require a firmware update on a player.  Consumers are not going to except that every time they play a new disc they must spend 30mins updating their player.  Heck were complaining about the upsurd (~30-90secs) it takes to start a movie.  DRM will always be a cat and mouse game with the circumvention.  <br><br>all in all a big waste of time for all parties involved.<br><br>my 2 cents<br>Mitchell]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitchell]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 8:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[Amen to that.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[EJNelly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 11:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[BD+ doesn't always require a firmware change. It can patch into certain functionality on the machine and deny playback too based on tests it performs, e.g. checking a firmware version from memory based on its signature. It can even do timing critical tests which would be hard to emulate. But it doesnt update firmware.<br><br>More likely is that studios will implement BD+ (only some do at the moment) and they'll start aggressively switching keys and schemes so that SlySoft has great difficulty keeping up. They're probably getting away with it now because there may only be a couple of BD+ protected disks every week. It will be interesting to see if they can keep up as the number of releases and the way they are protected increases.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DrXym]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 19th 2008 5:31AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[* quote<br>Mitchell <br><br>all in all a big waste of time for all parties involved.<br>=====================================================<br><br>You're missing the point Mitchell.<br><br>It's a huge multi-million $ gravy train for those involved.<br><br>'The industry' knows it isn't going to mean a thing to the real large commercial 'pirates'.<br><br>They know the only people this will inconvenience are the paying punters. <br>As they ramp the DRM up it's the paying 'owners' that are the only ones who start to encounter endless update and compatability problems.<br><br>But then a 'paying owner' is a concept they want to leave far behind anyways.<br><br>You only buy the right to view (in the USA) you don't actuially 'own' jack sh!t.<br>Check your EULA <br>(didn't you know you are deemed to have agreed to one?)<br><br>Land of the free my a$$, land of the corporate slave more like.......and you largely let it all happen without a word of protest.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth Teller]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 19th 2008 9:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[You have to hand it to SlySoft (or rather the army of tech geek contractors they employ in places like India and Russia).  I seriously doubt that any sort of key flipping or change-up with implementation within batches of movies will ever hold this company down.  They now know BD+ better than the people that developed it.  BD+ is dead...worse than dead, emasculated.<br><br>On a side note, SlySoft is now making more money than ever as they now charge in Euros since the Dollar is so worthless.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 18th 2008 8:44PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/slysoft-keeps-anydvd-hd-current-circumvents-latest-bd/</guid><description><![CDATA[Does anydvd HD support Australian Blu ray movies?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 25th 2008 1:53AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>