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So they know think BD will have its day when prices come down. If I was them I would want my day now...and so would lower prices.

Better hurry with that $100-$120 BD player...I am waiting]]>Jun 3rd 2008 10:42PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 3rd 2008 10:52PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
If lower prices are what they're looking for then they should go to their local Walmart starting this weekend.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 10:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
Prices need to halve in price yesterday!]]>Jun 3rd 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
As I said before I think this is great in many ways not because it will make Blu-Ray adoption trickier but because it will force BDA to land down to Earth and drop prices to normal levels.

At that point, I will definitely say that people should buy Blu-Ray.

If Cloverfield BD release at $20 is a sign of things to come, I'm all for it.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 11:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 10:07AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 2:07AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 2:43AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 3:40AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 4:23AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
I do have a 26" 720p set in my bedroom, and the difference on that is not nearly as pronounced. Maybe those little TVs are what you were thinking of. 37" TVs are actually pretty large, and more than enough to see a dramatic jump in picture quality when upgrading to Blu-ray.]]>Jun 4th 2008 8:57AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
Stretch-o-vision sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ]]>Jun 4th 2008 10:08AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
Good luck on that price drop...]]>Jun 4th 2008 5:47AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Sure "WE" understand the difference he, but joe 6-pack doesn't and with DVD players under $50 upscaling or not they don't care to spend 7x that, and especially with gas being as high as it is, I don't see the growth from joe 6-pack becoming reality until we have cheaper disks and much cheaper players IMO.]]>Jun 4th 2008 8:28AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/ Does anyone know if sony has some sort of clause in the BDA that restricts 2.0 player from being released until they allow it? Give me a 2.0 player for $149 and I'll be happy.]]>Jun 4th 2008 10:29AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
Another story about people not wanting to buy Blu-Ray? At first I just thought people were surprised at how long the entire HD revolution has taken to get off the ground. Compared to DVD it is a little bit slower, so I can understand that. But the constant release of these pseudo news stories is really starting to make me think there is a Blu-Ray bias out there. It's almost like you guys want the format to fail. I mean come on, the format war just ended. Give it some time to actually take hold before you start calling the time of death. I think there should be a year waiting period at minimum after a format war ends to see what's happened since. It's far too early to be able to say anything that's worth saying. For as horrible as the economy is right now and for as much as people are struggling to pay their bills I think it's remarkable the sales Blu-Ray already has.

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Here's an interesting blog post. 11 million Blu-ray discs sold to date, and preliminary data shows more BDs sold between January and May 2008 than in all of 2007 (and yes, that includes all the end-of 2007 BOGO sales). Heck, we didn't even have all studios releasing during that period! I can't wait to see how things are looking after holidays 2008.

http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/blog_detail.php?id=201 ]]>Jun 4th 2008 11:27AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 9:38AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
Blu-ray is crawling at a snail's pace towards lower prices & the supposedly 'final spec'.

Movie prices aren't much better, again relying on limited deals to attract rather than simply having a generally attractive starting price.

Even the (unconfirmed) news that there are now proper licences being issued to the Chinese (as opposed to the assembly & component manufacture which has been going on since day 1) does not indicate significant change any time soon.

(I wonder what the reference design is going to be?)

For those who find this difficult to believe remember that it took Toshiba & the Chinese over 2 years from signing the contracts of their licencing deal(s) - Sept 2005 - until product actually appeared in the stores - Nov/Dec 2007.

The early adopters & PS3 crowd might yell about it not being so but the truth is that Blu-ray is being all but ignored by the mass-market.
It's invisible to the a/v mass-market because it is far too reliant on a game console most will have no interest in & never want,
it is grossly over-priced compared to DVD (players & discs)
and worst of all just simply not 'worth' the improvement it offers.

I have a nice HD DVD player, a decent & recent HD TV set and I've seen plenty of Blu-ray on good HD TV sets.
All set-up properly & with care too I might add.
Personally I like my high def, but on some movies I have to admit, there's a bit of 'the Emperor's clothes' going on here, far too few care to admit that it can be desperately underwhelming.
That's not saying DVD is 'better', of course not but sometimes it's close enough for anyone not to care too much about or for.

Anyone who wants to pretend that every high def disc looks utterly amazing
(especially on the mass-market 'sweet-spot' of HD TVs @ 32" - 50")
is IMO just kidding themselves and worst of all obviously trying to kid others.
The question must be asked, why? ]]>Jun 4th 2008 11:01AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 4th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
What's not funny is seeing the HD DVD zombies trying to bring down HD for everyone just because they have sour grapes.]]>Jun 4th 2008 2:00PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/For me personally, I will buy BR when a quality spec 2.0 standalone player is in the $150 bracket, at the current rates that should be about 2015, but a lot of people myself included, just do not like, and will not support sony which has a dreadful record for failure when trying to force proprietary formats onto consumers at grossly inflated prices.

You may be happy outlaying an outrageously large amount of $ for an slightly improved DVD player, but the majority of the population is not.
So will you all get off the HD DVD bitterness campaign, that is long since gone and forgotten, but there are still plenty of us who will not blindly follow sony on its well beaten path of self destruction at the expense of early consumers.]]>Jun 4th 2008 7:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/Jun 5th 2008 5:56AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/I bought an A2 for $99 with 4 free movies and an XA 2 with 11 movies for $300, hence my $150 ish price range, I might consider $250 for say a profile 2.0 Panasonic.
Subsidized or not, to me thats all a DVD player is worth, I wouldn't have paid $300+ for a HD DVD player either except the XA2 for $300 and 11 movies was just to good to pass up. Even on todays cheapest BR standards @ $15 per movie, that still represents $165 in movies, that means I only paid $135 for an XA2!!
I know you blu faithful don't believe it, but DVD via my XA2 is so stunning that BR will have to be cheap for me to bother, the minimal benefits are just not worth the $ outlay.I don't even bother with HD DVD movies now and there are plenty to be had very cheaply, the differences just don't warrant the outlay!]]>Jun 5th 2008 8:43PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/03/new-blu-ray-research-says-more-of-the-same/
No way!!!]]>Jun 6th 2008 8:44PM