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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is like a flame war between a psychotic jerk and a forum administrator, where the jerk posts 1000 line rant after 1000 line rant replying to an accumulation of posts so confusing that only he understands where it all started.  And it lasts only until the admin brings the hammer down.<br><br>Sooner or later the Federal courts are going to express a rather dim view of DISH's refusal to honor TiVo's patents.  Don't stand too close.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[kcmurphy88]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 4:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Really DISH's lawsuit is more of a strategy to put TiVo out of business rather than a true legal fight. I've seen it before at a company with whom I worked. A larger company sued the smaller one and kept appealing and appealing until the smaller one couldn't afford to keep fighting the legal battle and combined with other forces was required to sell out. TiVo has always struggled financially and I'm betting DISH is trying to help them along in the money woes.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[fangler]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 12:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sorry, not quite it.  This is to save Dish money.<br><br>This is a request for a declaratory judgment.  It's like asking the court to tell you that something is or is not legal.  Tivo has an injunction requiring Dish to not sell any DVR that infringes.  Tivo hasn't sued over whether or not Dish's new DVRs infringe its timeshifting patent.  But because of the injunction, all Tivo has to do to allege infringement of Dish's new DVRs is raise them before the court that issued the current injunction.<br><br>All Dish has done is raised the issue first, in the court of their choice; the idea is that the court in Texas will be bound by the decision of the court in Delaware.  If Tivo raises it in Texas now, the court there should wait until the action commenced in Delaware has been decided.  But Dish is the plaintiff in that action, so they have more control over the timing of that action.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 9:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sorry, not quite it.  This is to save Dish money.<br><br>This is a request for a declaratory judgment.  It's like asking the court to tell you that something is or is not legal.  Tivo has an injunction requiring Dish to not sell any DVR that infringes.  Tivo hasn't sued over whether or not Dish's new DVRs infringe its timeshifting patent.  But because of the injunction, all Tivo has to do to allege infringement of Dish's new DVRs is raise them before the court that issued the current injunction.<br><br>All Dish has done is raised the issue first, in the court of their choice; the idea is that the court in Texas will be bound by the decision of the court in Delaware.  If Tivo raises it in Texas now, the court there should wait until the action commenced in Delaware has been decided.  But Dish is the plaintiff in that action, so they have more control over the timing of that action.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 9:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Maybe DISH should just drop to the floor and have a tantrum next time they're in the court room. It might be more productive.<br><br>TiVo's got income from DirecTV and Comcast, not to mention subscribers, so I don't see DISH killing them off by drawing out the proceedings. If they're waiting for the patents to expire, well, they'll still have to pay up for the period they were valid with interest no less.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[WebDev511]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 12:36PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[And triple damages at this point.  Not to mention whatever the court tacks on for contempt.  Like a year in jail for the CEO.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[kcmurphy88]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 4:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Aren't Tivo's patents so broad that any other DVR would be sued?  Another case of a bad patent office IMO.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 4:56PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/30/dish-echostar-keep-fighting-back-sue-tivo-again-over-dvr-patent/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sorry for the double post... only hit the button once... :-/]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 31st 2008 9:52PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>