But but but digital downloads are a decade away. LOL!!!
This year SD content will go mainstream everywhere next year HD goes mainstream. No need for optical media at all.. Those who really can't get cable or don't have enough money to even get an HD TV will be plenty satisifed with regular DVDs and super-upscaling coming second half of 2009.
Of course, in none of this Blu-Ray has the future. Instead of letting HD DVD grow as a complete format almost 2 years ago we would've had everything ready by now and HD DVD would be already mass producing and replacing DVDs.
But there you go.. when you have greedy scumbags and corporate payoffs, now you ain't gonna have it at all.
oh lord, HD-DVD was the one doing all the corporate payoffs dude, where ya been? HD-DVD almost did win, until people finally realized it was inferior to bluray, finally did the public realize a product was inferior and voted nay. Give me a break, would be replacing dvd.....that's a big joke.... by the time anything will replace dvd we will be well onto flash drive downloads for everything. DVD's are here to stay for a long time, deal......
LS2LS7.. it's working just fine on XBL and HD movies and shows look spectacular and I used it when my internet was about 4.5mbps. Worked fine, I just had to wait a bit longer for the download to cache (about 10-15 mins).
Now I have 25mbps (and I don't live in super rural area either) and it pretty much takes me like 2-3 mins before I watch the movie in HD. Between my Blu-Ray movies and HD DVD movies and XBL HD movies for example, I am yet to see a difference. There is some on some movies but it's completely negligible difference.
@gr689
I'd really love to smoke what you're smoking, to get away from reality. For real.
LOL at HD DVD the one paying through the nose..ha ha.. that's really a gem there. No doubt. Like HD DVD wasn't the superior and more finished format from the very beginning. The only advantage BR had was space and that we saw in quality meant absolutely ZERO.
You are either late into getting information or simply read nonsense that many people here on Engadget are talking about. Complete disconnect with reality.
No need to really speculate anything. We are seeing huge increase in digital download services and HD already being planned pretty soon. The world is not going to wait for Sony. We had a good cheap, mainstream friendly HD at 1080p. Sony screwed it up and pushed Blu-Ray garbage. It wont' take long until end of this year for people and companies to realize that digital is everywhere and a real business model with longevity, not optical media.
I do agree with you that DVD will be here to stay. By the time 80% of people even has HDTV, optical media and Blu-Ray will be in one of those articles in PC magazine about technologies that never took off.
HD-DVD inferior to Blu-Ray?? dude... are you serious?? stop reading engadget comment posts for your information... If you read specs, HD-DVD was basically a well produced and all-around product... Blu-Ray had extra space... thats it... big whoop... It's like saying, ohhh look at my big Mac Truck compared to your toyota prius... But guess what, prius can get 40+ miles to the gallon compared to your one mile per gallon... Blu ray beat HD-DVD, yet, its still not even a complete product... People still have to go out and look for the players with the new Profiles WHICH WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED ALREADY!!
If you look at the nielsen ratings, NO ONE IS BUYING BLU RAY!!! stupid ass... They are barely scratching the surface as compared to S-DVDs.... More people were buying blu/hd during the format war as compared to right now...
As for streaming, I'm already streaming from Hulu.com in 480P onto my plasma and it looks great... If netflix gets on the ball and moves to high-def, peace out physical media... I'm content with Dolby 5.1... as long as it looks sexy on the plasma, im very much content...
so, gr689, go read some more forum posts for your info and keep coming back with your half ass facts... I'm loving it... I love the "flash drive downloads" thing too lmao... Your mom is a flash drive download!!
@Tony... now why did you have to bring out the "fanboy" term... go get a dictionary and come with something better... YOU are ignorant to believe size made a difference when there wasnt a blu-ray movie that filled up an HD-DVD...
also, i call BS because Transformers isnt even on blu-ray yet... so, ummm, what are you talking about...
Besides "size" tell me how blu-ray is superior? ummmm alrighty then... gotcha... have a nice day...
oh and did you forget that there was a bigger hd-dvd format in production that was pretty much the same size as a blu-ray? yeah, people forgot about that one... check the engadget articles, its out there...
oh, and the 480p term was a compliment to hulu.com... am i not allowed to give kudos to a good performance on engadget hd?
I'm a former HD DVD fanboy. I have pre-ordered a Pioneer BDP-05FD Blu-Ray player. I recently watch 28 Weeks later on Starz HD recorded to the hard drive of my Tivo Series 3 (the THX-certified box with the OLED front face/display) from Verizon FiosTV. Some of the night scenes were blotchy on my Panasonic TH-42PX60U. My set-up is pretty good; I am not going to settle for downloads that have inferior quality to what I have gotten from my FiOS/Tivo combo. I did watch the Descent with an Amazon UnBox credit I had; the scenes in the cave were poor many times.
NFinity: That stuff on XBLA is 720p. It has half the spatial resolution of BluRay or HD-DVD. And that's before you get into the greatly reduced data rate.
Hey, I watch OTA HD, and it's about 14mbits MPEG2, so of course the stuff on XBLA is tolerable. But the stuff on HD-DVD and BluRay looks a lot better.
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worldbfree4me @ May 22nd 2008 12:51AM
Once this puppy gets HD content, kiss Blu goodbye as a future leader in households across america. Oh the possibilities!
Nfinity @ May 22nd 2008 1:54AM
Are you crazy!!? :)
But but but digital downloads are a decade away. LOL!!!
This year SD content will go mainstream everywhere next year HD goes mainstream. No need for optical media at all.. Those who really can't get cable or don't have enough money to even get an HD TV will be plenty satisifed with regular DVDs and super-upscaling coming second half of 2009.
Of course, in none of this Blu-Ray has the future. Instead of letting HD DVD grow as a complete format almost 2 years ago we would've had everything ready by now and HD DVD would be already mass producing and replacing DVDs.
But there you go.. when you have greedy scumbags and corporate payoffs, now you ain't gonna have it at all.
why not the LS2LS7? @ May 22nd 2008 2:57AM
The BluRays I watch (like the one I watched today), use the most advanced codecs available and have bitrates of about 19mbits/sec.
How are you going to stream content of this quality when most people only have about 6mbits/sec of bandwidth?
gr689 @ May 22nd 2008 3:10AM
oh lord, HD-DVD was the one doing all the corporate payoffs dude, where ya been? HD-DVD almost did win, until people finally realized it was inferior to bluray, finally did the public realize a product was inferior and voted nay. Give me a break, would be replacing dvd.....that's a big joke.... by the time anything will replace dvd we will be well onto flash drive downloads for everything. DVD's are here to stay for a long time, deal......
Nfinity @ May 22nd 2008 3:31AM
LS2LS7.. it's working just fine on XBL and HD movies and shows look spectacular and I used it when my internet was about 4.5mbps. Worked fine, I just had to wait a bit longer for the download to cache (about 10-15 mins).
Now I have 25mbps (and I don't live in super rural area either) and it pretty much takes me like 2-3 mins before I watch the movie in HD. Between my Blu-Ray movies and HD DVD movies and XBL HD movies for example, I am yet to see a difference. There is some on some movies but it's completely negligible difference.
@gr689
I'd really love to smoke what you're smoking, to get away from reality. For real.
LOL at HD DVD the one paying through the nose..ha ha.. that's really a gem there. No doubt. Like HD DVD wasn't the superior and more finished format from the very beginning. The only advantage BR had was space and that we saw in quality meant absolutely ZERO.
You are either late into getting information or simply read nonsense that many people here on Engadget are talking about. Complete disconnect with reality.
No need to really speculate anything. We are seeing huge increase in digital download services and HD already being planned pretty soon. The world is not going to wait for Sony. We had a good cheap, mainstream friendly HD at 1080p. Sony screwed it up and pushed Blu-Ray garbage. It wont' take long until end of this year for people and companies to realize that digital is everywhere and a real business model with longevity, not optical media.
I do agree with you that DVD will be here to stay. By the time 80% of people even has HDTV, optical media and Blu-Ray will be in one of those articles in PC magazine about technologies that never took off.
andyg8180 @ May 22nd 2008 9:16AM
@gr689
HD-DVD inferior to Blu-Ray?? dude... are you serious?? stop reading engadget comment posts for your information... If you read specs, HD-DVD was basically a well produced and all-around product... Blu-Ray had extra space... thats it... big whoop... It's like saying, ohhh look at my big Mac Truck compared to your toyota prius... But guess what, prius can get 40+ miles to the gallon compared to your one mile per gallon... Blu ray beat HD-DVD, yet, its still not even a complete product... People still have to go out and look for the players with the new Profiles WHICH WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED ALREADY!!
If you look at the nielsen ratings, NO ONE IS BUYING BLU RAY!!! stupid ass... They are barely scratching the surface as compared to S-DVDs.... More people were buying blu/hd during the format war as compared to right now...
As for streaming, I'm already streaming from Hulu.com in 480P onto my plasma and it looks great... If netflix gets on the ball and moves to high-def, peace out physical media... I'm content with Dolby 5.1... as long as it looks sexy on the plasma, im very much content...
so, gr689, go read some more forum posts for your info and keep coming back with your half ass facts... I'm loving it... I love the "flash drive downloads" thing too lmao... Your mom is a flash drive download!!
andyg8180 @ May 22nd 2008 10:58AM
@Tony... now why did you have to bring out the "fanboy" term... go get a dictionary and come with something better... YOU are ignorant to believe size made a difference when there wasnt a blu-ray movie that filled up an HD-DVD...
also, i call BS because Transformers isnt even on blu-ray yet... so, ummm, what are you talking about...
Besides "size" tell me how blu-ray is superior? ummmm alrighty then... gotcha... have a nice day...
oh and did you forget that there was a bigger hd-dvd format in production that was pretty much the same size as a blu-ray? yeah, people forgot about that one... check the engadget articles, its out there...
oh, and the 480p term was a compliment to hulu.com... am i not allowed to give kudos to a good performance on engadget hd?
Leonardo DiCrapio @ May 23rd 2008 1:12PM
I'm a former HD DVD fanboy. I have pre-ordered a Pioneer BDP-05FD Blu-Ray player. I recently watch 28 Weeks later on Starz HD recorded to the hard drive of my Tivo Series 3 (the THX-certified box with the OLED front face/display) from Verizon FiosTV. Some of the night scenes were blotchy on my Panasonic TH-42PX60U. My set-up is pretty good; I am not going to settle for downloads that have inferior quality to what I have gotten from my FiOS/Tivo combo. I did watch the Descent with an Amazon UnBox credit I had; the scenes in the cave were poor many times.
why not the LS2LS7? @ May 23rd 2008 3:36AM
NFinity:
That stuff on XBLA is 720p. It has half the spatial resolution of BluRay or HD-DVD. And that's before you get into the greatly reduced data rate.
Hey, I watch OTA HD, and it's about 14mbits MPEG2, so of course the stuff on XBLA is tolerable. But the stuff on HD-DVD and BluRay looks a lot better.