http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/ Engadget HD Comments for Haze doesn't quite measure up to 720p http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
PS3, the look and sound of "good enough" RIGHT?

Freaking hypocrites.]]>May 20th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 12:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 1:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
I don't think any developers prefer lower resolution of game designs. It's more likely the trade off due to the platform that isn't capable of support higher resolution while maintain the complexity and smoothness (framerate) of the game play. Neither of the two systems (360 and PS3) is capable of deliver full 1080p on any game that is worth paying for. You have to chose. ]]>May 20th 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/It takes a lot of skill to optimise your resourses as opposed to throwing power at a problem.
Developers are dealing with a totaly new technology with the cell chip and as time goes on they will get better but that doesn't mean they will delay a game for a long time to improve it to its max potential.
I'm not saying the PS3 can meet all of Sony's claims as Sony is and always will be the biggest over hyping company but to say that it can't make a game worth playing in true 1080p is ignorant and based on no facts.]]>May 20th 2008 8:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/19/haze-says-no-to-hd-yes-to-hdd/]]>May 20th 2008 1:52PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
PS3 is poorly engineered creating severe bottlenecks in memory and graphics and that's why recently almost all multi platform games are either lower resolution on PS3 or have some kind of other issues visual or framerate.

But good thing there's Blu-Ray on it since you gotta fit 50gb of game data on it. Oh wait, you install like a huge chunk of that on hard drive too. LOL.

Talk about inefficient design.



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You can have the best performing console ever and a crappy coder or a lazy job of coding can have what outcome? A poorly performing engine. Now most companies will not stick around with a game long enough to have it perform the way it should. Why dump money out when you can get it performing in a faster and easier way and it works.

Simply put there are many games for either console that look better and perform better than haze. A crappy coded game IS a crappy coded game. Stop bashing the PS3. If it was designed for the 360 as well it would probably look the same on that crap console too.]]>May 20th 2008 3:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
It's not even an average shooter.]]>May 20th 2008 2:14PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 2:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
PS3 is an unfinished console that's neither entertainment center, neither a game console. Blu-Ray is not a picked format by people and completely ineffecient and unfinished that has no way of going mainstream for at least 2 more years. Something we could've already had with HD DVD for example. Why we don't? Well greed from scumbags and corporate payoffs .. that's why.

These are all facts that I'm pretty sure you will never be able to accept.

I have all 3 consoles too and PS3 is the biggest failure I've seen in any device I bought.

The only thing I occasionally use it for is rented Blu-Rays and since that thing is not really working out, Blockbuster and Netflix simply either don't have enough copies or they don't get certain movies on Blu-Ray at all, because BDA scumbags and all the studios that got fat payoffs are trying to rip off people and not allow renting either, the PS3 stays pretty much shut down.

I even use my old HD DVD player A20 for upscaling DVDs that look superb over PS3.

All in all.. PS3 is simply waste of money. ]]>May 20th 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 3:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 20th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
As a gaming console I don't think much of the PS3 (and I own one, as well as a 360) and although much of what he's said is true, he's fueled by his hate for Blu Ray. If the consoles weren't involved with the HD format war, he wouldn't be saying these things right now.

Also, to settle things, GTA4 was 630p on PS3 (compared to a full 720p on the 360), COD4 was 600p on both consoles, and Halo 3 was 640p. Haze at 576p is the lowest res game this generation. IMO its not HD at all, its pretty much PAL.]]>May 20th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/
believe it or not, I don't hate Blu-Ray from the technology point of view in terms of providing us 1080p footage. I dont' have a problem with that.

I have a problem with how it was forced on consumers and how they continue to simply ripoff people from players to movies.

If a Blu-Ray had FINISHED spec-ed standalones and were $200 even $250 (but I'm talking fully fully featured and finished) or below (which is their objective value), if movies were just a little bit more expensive then regular DVD releases because they are not really super revolutionary, it's just slightly enhanced quality of image, it's hardly worth 3-4 or 5 times the price of DVDs. Let's say if new releases were $19.99. I wouldn't have problems at all with it, despite the payoffs and stuff Sony and BDA did to enforce it on the consumers.

What I hate is this whole notion that we should be paying prices for HD players and movies at the level of 1999. I mean how retarded one has to be to support this. Do you go and say, oh ok laptop was $5000 5 years ago, I should go and pay the new laptop with wifi and all the next gen goodies $5k? It's ridiculous.

Blu-ray or HD DVD are neither revolutionary nor offer a bunch of things DVD doesn't have to warrant such a huge jump, not to mention that most of these movies won't be encoded to the max quality anyways, the justification to pay these prices shows their greed even more. It's more like a jump that happened from CD to DVD. Improved size of the discs, better quality as they had more space etc etc.

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Blu Ray player prices are tracking exactly as DVD did before. CEs sell high to cover their R&D and production costs. They want to make a profit after all. As more players sell and the technology matures, the price drops. I noticed you slipped in some weasel words like as long as its "fully featured", this of course being because you know there will be $200 players by the year end and want to cling on to your hate a little longer by dismissing them as 1.1 players.

As for titles at $20 titles, these too will happen as the format expands and there are more titles. Go to Amazon and you can already see most bestsellers are in the $20-25 range. Personally I judge whether I would buy a movie on a combination of price and how good the movie is. A lot of movies aren't even worth $20 but clearly someone is buying them or they wouldn't be bestsellers.
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Halo 3 runs at 640p.

And neither of them have the horrible jagginess that is present in Haze.]]>May 20th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 21st 2008 3:08AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/05/20/haze-doesnt-quite-measure-up-to-720p/May 21st 2008 6:52AM