Of course it would be different numbnut.. the costs of everything HD DVD were significantly less and players were at $150 (subsidization or not). Production, players, full specs.. the movies could've been published two years ago if Blu-Ray and Sony didn't come in with their fat greedy asses and killed HD mass-adoption.
Nfinity, give us all a break. If consumers gave a hoot about your precious HD DVD it would have completely crushed Blu-ray a year ago, or at the very least over the 2007 holiday season. Xemumaniac is completely right, and you know it. The numbers are low because it's only early adopters buying right now.
I'm in that 6% and not planning to go anywhere. Blu can suck it. I'll take digital downloads or DVD over Blu right now. Once name brand players reach the $100-150 range, then maybe. Oh wait, HD DVD players were almost there... what were the deals? Player + 10 movies = $200? >:(
@Mr. E Blu only won because of the PS3. If the PS3 did not have Blu built in, or had Xbox 360 had HD DVD built in, things would have been different. And in my world, things are different. In my world, HD DVD is alive and kicking; Blu died a horrible terrible death. I still refuse to believe my beloved Red is dead.
StealthMonkey, we can rehash the format war until the cows come home, but for better or worse now the only choice for 1080p video with lossless audio is Blu-ray. That's the world of reality, but I honestly have no problem with your grieving process. I admire that you and others in this thread will be willing to move past your legitimate disappointment and resentment, once Blu-ray drops enough in price. Despite what some claim, those price drops will definitely come. The marketplace always pushes down electronics prices over time, and hopefully one day we can all come together in our love of HD. Well, most all of us, at least. I think we know who I'm talking about.
Is it a shock to anyone? I mean lets be honest about everything boys and girls, HDTV adoption is NOT THERE YET!! So don't expect Blu Ray to come on like gangbusters yet. They said about 35%of the sample had HDTV, right? Isn't that about right about the number of how much HDTV adoption is right now in America(Some may say that is a bit generous)?
So basically, Blu ray can have all the BOGOs and try to inflate their true sales numbers, but in all honesty, BD sales are nothing compared to SD sales. Now if those darn Blu boys can get their act together and lower the damn price, things may change pretty quickly. At least within the "35%" of HDTV owners that is. I for one would be all over a BD player if prices were at least half of what they are now. Oh and they would have to be profile 2.0 and not take over a minute to boot up and load a disc too( and no, I DON'T want a PS3!). Also, don't give me 5 craptacular movies that I would not buy EVER! Just lower the price, and I will see you there.
And I understand that they don't want to lower prices and take a loss on players upfront, but isn't that why they charge $30-$35 for a BD disc, while SD counterparts can be had for $10? So do what those game companies do, and take a loss and you will make up for it on disc sales. I mean last time I checked, those CE companies (not all, but most, or at least the big players) that were making BD players, are also members of the BDA that collect royalties, no? Just my 2 pennies.
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Nfinity @ May 14th 2008 4:00PM
Shocking!
xemumanic @ May 14th 2008 4:02PM
Whats more shocking is that you're the first to respond. As if this would be any different had HD-DVD won.
Nfinity @ May 14th 2008 4:15PM
Of course it would be different numbnut.. the costs of everything HD DVD were significantly less and players were at $150 (subsidization or not). Production, players, full specs.. the movies could've been published two years ago if Blu-Ray and Sony didn't come in with their fat greedy asses and killed HD mass-adoption.
lakersin2025 @ May 14th 2008 4:15PM
You are shocking!
Mr. E @ May 14th 2008 4:34PM
Nfinity, give us all a break. If consumers gave a hoot about your precious HD DVD it would have completely crushed Blu-ray a year ago, or at the very least over the 2007 holiday season. Xemumaniac is completely right, and you know it. The numbers are low because it's only early adopters buying right now.
StealthMonkey @ May 14th 2008 7:19PM
I'm in that 6% and not planning to go anywhere. Blu can suck it. I'll take digital downloads or DVD over Blu right now. Once name brand players reach the $100-150 range, then maybe. Oh wait, HD DVD players were almost there... what were the deals? Player + 10 movies = $200? >:(
@Mr. E
Blu only won because of the PS3. If the PS3 did not have Blu built in, or had Xbox 360 had HD DVD built in, things would have been different. And in my world, things are different. In my world, HD DVD is alive and kicking; Blu died a horrible terrible death. I still refuse to believe my beloved Red is dead.
Mr. E @ May 14th 2008 7:52PM
StealthMonkey, we can rehash the format war until the cows come home, but for better or worse now the only choice for 1080p video with lossless audio is Blu-ray. That's the world of reality, but I honestly have no problem with your grieving process. I admire that you and others in this thread will be willing to move past your legitimate disappointment and resentment, once Blu-ray drops enough in price. Despite what some claim, those price drops will definitely come. The marketplace always pushes down electronics prices over time, and hopefully one day we can all come together in our love of HD. Well, most all of us, at least. I think we know who I'm talking about.
Let's hold hands and sing Kumbaya now. :)
HD4ME @ May 15th 2008 3:30AM
Blu ray tanking, MUUUHHAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAA
jayman @ May 15th 2008 9:52AM
Is it a shock to anyone? I mean lets be honest about everything boys and girls, HDTV adoption is NOT THERE YET!! So don't expect Blu Ray to come on like gangbusters yet. They said about 35%of the sample had HDTV, right? Isn't that about right about the number of how much HDTV adoption is right now in America(Some may say that is a bit generous)?
So basically, Blu ray can have all the BOGOs and try to inflate their true sales numbers, but in all honesty, BD sales are nothing compared to SD sales. Now if those darn Blu boys can get their act together and lower the damn price, things may change pretty quickly. At least within the "35%" of HDTV owners that is. I for one would be all over a BD player if prices were at least half of what they are now. Oh and they would have to be profile 2.0 and not take over a minute to boot up and load a disc too( and no, I DON'T want a PS3!). Also, don't give me 5 craptacular movies that I would not buy EVER! Just lower the price, and I will see you there.
And I understand that they don't want to lower prices and take a loss on players upfront, but isn't that why they charge $30-$35 for a BD disc, while SD counterparts can be had for $10? So do what those game companies do, and take a loss and you will make up for it on disc sales. I mean last time I checked, those CE companies (not all, but most, or at least the big players) that were making BD players, are also members of the BDA that collect royalties, no? Just my 2 pennies.