Previous
Windows 7 media center review
Logitech Harmony Adapter for Playstation 3 review
HD 101: What is ATSC, PSIP, QAM, and 8-VSB?
How to install a CableCARD tuner in your DIY Media Center
DISH Network launches remote DVR control
Engadget HD Podcast 157 - 09.29.2009
Paradigm SUB 25 subwoofer review
Engadget goes behind the Dolby logo
Breaking news Feed
- Best Buy partnering with CinemaNow to stream first-run DVDs to 'all web-connected devices sold'
- Netflix coming next month to PlayStation 3
- Toshiba details CELL REGZA LCD TV, coming December to Japan (update: video!)
- Intel announces Atom CE4100 for insanely powerful cable boxes and Blu-ray players
- Media Center CableCARDs freed from OEM requirement
- Samsung's LED TV Couple packs a 7-inch tablet remote for streaming TV and so much more
- Toshiba BDX2000 Blu-ray player coming November for $250, gives HD-DVD the final cold shoulder
- PS3 Slim bitstreams Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA audio, at last
- Xbox 360 officially the only console to stream Netflix -- sorry, PS3 and Wii
- Toshiba applies for BDA admission, Blu-ray players and laptops coming soon
Featured stories Feed
- Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark Blu-ray mini-review
- Ask Engadget HD: Is it (still) a good time to buy a TiVo?
- Pace and Rovi work together to make a standard set-top a true multi-room DVR
- Ready or not, the latest 3D technology is coming home
- How to automatically skip commercials in Windows 7 Media Center
- Ask Engadget HD: How do you evaluate HDTVs in-store?
- Sharp AQUOS LC-52LE700UN impressions
- Ask Engadget HD: Best home theater setup for gaming?
- TDK's heavily stacked 320GB disc shows its nearly-clear face at CEATEC
- Panasonic's 1080p twin-lens P2 camcorder seen behind three-dee glass at CEATEC
- Just Tell Me What to Get: Sub-$1,000 LCD for the Living Room
- Phoneride the Whip: Drive Your Car With Your iPhone
- Pizza Hut iPhone App Bringing in the Dough, Google Offers Storage Discounts
- Google 'Caffeine' to Jack Up Your Searches
- The Daily Engadget: Project Natal Rumors, Laser-Guided Robot Wheelchairs
Resources
Sections
- Announcements
- Ask Engadget HD
- DIY
- Features
- Industry
- Misc
- Podcasts
- Polls
- Regulatory
- Reviews
- Blu-ray
- Cables
- Camcorders
- Displays
- DVRs
- HD DVD
- Media PCs
- Media streamers
- Other formats
- Other hardware
- Players
- Ports
- Receivers
- Recorders
- Remotes
- Set-top boxes
- Speakers
- Switches
- Tuners
Hardware
Manufacturers
WIN Network
- Autos
- Technology
- Lifestyle
- Gaming
- Finance
- Entertainment on AOL
- Lifestyle on AOL
- Sports on AOL
- Travel on AOL
- Also on AOL
Other Weblogs Inc. Network blogs you might be interested in:
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Nfinity @ May 8th 2008 4:03PM
This is great news.. I'll update my 2 HD DVD standalone players and this is what consumer support means in general. Something that we had with HD DVD from start, though I'm already in process of ripping all my HD movies both Blu-Ray and HD DVD to my hard drives and will continue doing so with upcoming BR Blockbuster movies. Screw this rip off crap with Blu-Ray too. Other suckers can pay for it, I'm done.
We need to show them that their greed is not what consumer wants. We want great quality for cheap, not mediocre quality at absurd prices all I got to say.
When BR movies get $19.99 at least for new releases and fully featured players are
mntwister @ May 8th 2008 5:25PM
nothing like confessing to the general public that you are breaking the law and pirating. Renting a movie and ripping it is illegal. The truth is that it's people like you who actually make the prices stay high because of the cost loss of pirates. Glad I don't have to live with myself breaking the law. Enjoy.
Truth Teller @ May 8th 2008 5:53PM
Of course that all depends on just where you live and what the law actually is there.
Contrary to the f*ckwit 'common knowledge' downloading a movie for personal and non-commercial use is not a criminal act in the UK, actually.
(which begs the question why are the moron element just parroting their ignorant BS about this?)
It all actually falls under civil law, not criminal law,
and tough t!ttys to the supine b!tches who suck up any old lies &
sh!te 'the industry' would have you believe but there has been nothing like enough case law and precedent built up to blindly say it's proven as illegal.
Sorry & all but that is the situation in the UK
(you'll also note that we don't go for that American stupidity in Europe generally either, the EU Parliament recently chucked out this idiotic & patently obviously self-serving narrow BS last time the movie & music industry tried to get their stooges to pass law similar to that in the US).
Besides we also have a concept of 'natural justice' too
(which informs the law here).
If you pay a BBC TV & Radio licence you are paying to 'support' the movie & music industry.
If you buy satellite or cable TV channels you are paying to 'support' the movie & music industry.
If you buy the movie & music channels on your satellite & cable TV you are doubly (and handsomely) paying to 'support' the movie & music industry
(and yet again if you buy the HD channels too).
Basically what it boils down to is no-one cares what the greedy b@stards and their teams of paid suits & lawyers say or how much they pervert and abuse the law with their paid tame politicians.
The vast majority already pay (handsomely) - and usually several times over for the same stuff too.
Sharing (despite the lies & repetition) is not 'pirating'.
That is the correct term for the guy who sells dodgy copies of DVDs & CDs at the local flea market for profit, or the Chinese mini-industry that sells huge numbers of fake copies of various goods.
No-one (despite the attempts otherwise) is ever going to believe that downloading for personal non-commercial use is anything but harmless.....and that the current attempts to make punitive 'examples' of regular people are nothing but a vindictive and wildly excessive 'punishment'
(you won't see the likes of Bush punished for illegally having the Beatles on his iPod - and publicly saying so).
.....and for those of us who pay (and pay a lot) it is merely a matter of convenience and timing, we are not getting anything that we would otherwise not get.
The shills and apologists here can whine & mew about this all they like but it is just another aspect of the laughable 'King Canute' act the industry & their paid tame politicians & supporters are still trying to push
(although interestingly the music business seems to have woken up to reality recently).
Nfinity @ May 8th 2008 6:38PM
The comments system is ridiculous.. so I'm gonna stop posting this anymore. Half of my posts don't go through.
DEEZNUTS
It's not theft. I am not doing anything illegal. I rent a movie, I watch it in my player and what the hell I decide to copy the movie onto my hard drive.
I bought a software from a company (paid for it) and I don't hack or do anything to really steal the movie.
I don't know anyone who won't copy the movie on their hard drive with legal software they bought?
If anything, they should prevent the software company not me. I don't have to NOT do anything in my house. If it's in my house, it's legal. DONE. If they don't want me to copy the movie, they will either stop renting the movie or will legally penalize the company who allows me to normally copy the movie.
The burden is not on me.
I'm doing the same thing with my HD DVD movies too. So it's pretty normal thing as I want to have movies on my hard drives instead of slow ass optical media.
DrXym @ May 8th 2008 7:15PM
Truth Teller, wrong idiot. Piracy is an act of wilful copyright infringement and can be prosecuted under UK. Even format shifting content is currently illegal.
Now it may be that the courts don't have time and resources tot prosecute personal downloaders but they could if they so wished. Using P2P would also qualify you as a distributor making the charges easier to stick. And there would be nothing to stop the copyright holders suing you for damages either if they felt like it.
Of course they'd have to catch you first, but considering you've just confessed to doing it on a AV forum, so I wonder how hard that would be to get your IP address and figure out who you are for themselves.
Truth Teller @ May 8th 2008 7:26PM
Actaully it's you who are wrong DrXym.
I described the situation perfectly correctly here in the UK.
You can take your homespun stooge BS and shove it where the sun don't shine, just like the rest of the ludicrous lickspittle w@nkers.
.....and try not to gurn your eyes out too much for your pwoor wittle entertwainment industwee.
Diddums.
Ya risible moron.
DrXym @ May 9th 2008 3:41AM
Truth Teller, grow up little baby. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement. If you think there is any provision at all for making unauthorized personal copies of copyrighted material, you should have no trouble at all providing the link to that provision.
Here let me make it easier for you to find it. Here is the UK Intellectual Property Office website describing copyright. Please supply reference to where it says you can legally and wilfully infringe copyright.
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copy.htm
Truth Teller @ May 9th 2008 7:19AM
Try not to be such an obvious moron DrXym.
UK law is comprised of both criminal & civil.
Copyright is not a criminal issue it falls under civil law and civil
law requires case law and precedent to 'prove' anything beyond the
individual & specific case.
There hasn't been a 'body' of case law built up or tested about this
so your laughable bleating & whining on behalf of the industry means absolutely nothing
(but it at least lets us all see exactly where you - and those like you - are coming from).
It means about as much as that Gov body your want to stand behind
claiming they will always tell you the complete and unvarnished truth
(jeez, now that's just too funny.....are you about 5 or something?).
If you didn't have your patsy head so far up the industry's a$$ licking their tonsils clean for them you might even be aware of the rudimentary situation here that law is not the total preserve of the Gov
(or any of it's depts).
It really is basic stuff.
Our Gov (not even our latest attempt to pretend they're not in the pocket of big-business) does not have the say on everything
(tho even they have had major problems trying to amend the law in 'the industry's' favour when the opposition & their own backbenchers would not go along with this tide of idiotic control-freakery & spite - just as happened in the EU Parliament too).
That's where the Judiciary comes in......and European law too.
Wake up, for a change.
You ludicrously ignorant stooge.
Truth Teller @ May 9th 2008 7:55AM
OMG
I see the Americans have actually gotten the IP Act (overwhelmingly passed by the supposed representitives of 'the people')
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080508-house-overwhelmingly-passes-controversial-pro-ip-act.html
I guess it's only a matter of time now before their spiteful & vindictive punishments (utterly at odds with any notion of the punishment fitting the 'crime') cause a backlash.
Poor America, what have you become?
I guess this just shows the f*ckwit element
(DEEZNUTS, DrXym and the others that used to pop up to support this kind of sh!te)
that they get the Gov they deserve.
Shame for the rest.
Be interesting to see how much d/l'd stuff they have and how quickly they'd change their tune if they were facing the sort of punitive fines they hand out these days.
.....and of course the true hypocrites (the hadrware & media industry) that churns out all those burners & blank media (whilst also having multiple connections to the music & movie industry) just sails on and not a word is ever said.
Tragic.
DrXym @ May 9th 2008 8:12AM
Little baby should read up on the numerous instances of piracy groups and counterfeiters receiving jail terms and heavy fines in the UK. Little baby should read up on UK copyright law and understand that it does not allow personal piracy no matter how much little baby wishes otherwise. Little baby should learn that it does not even allow format shifting for legitimately owned titles although that may shortly change. Little baby should learn that while it is unlikely that an end user will be prosecuted in a criminal case his copying activities are still illegal and it could be argued that using P2P to download / upload copies is detrimental to a copyright holder. Furthermore little baby should learn that even if criminal charges were not laid, the copyright holders can still seek damages for your actions.
So grow up little baby. Downloading is not legal and pretending otherwise does not make it so. Copyright holders have more than enough scope to prosecute in civil or criminal courts if they so felt like it.
Frankly I'm not surprised you are having so much trouble understanding this given your tenuous grip on reality.
Truth Teller @ May 9th 2008 8:38AM
DrXym
"little baby"
FFS
Utterly pathetic.
Go try your lies (there have not been countless cases in the UK, liar) and industry shilling on someone else. Fool.
Franssu @ May 9th 2008 10:45AM
DEEZNUTZ : You're wrong. This could be considered copyright infringement, but definitely not theft. Copyright infringement IS NOT theft, contrary to what the content industry would like to make us believe.
Truth Teller @ May 9th 2008 10:52AM
* quote
Franssu
You're wrong.
Copyright infringement IS NOT theft, contrary to what the content industry would like to make us believe.
=====================================================
We have (another) winner.
Precisely.
No matter how much 'the industry' attempt to mould opinion with outright lies and ludicrous distortion the truth is that the "theft" they speak of is not actually "theft" at all!
(unless you're talking about in the USA where, after the IP Act, God knows what is meant to be what anymore.)
It's just so tragic how this vindictive anti-freedom agenda is actually welcomed & supported by the cretinous element.