Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending April 20th, 2008
What a difference a few new releases make for Blu-ray on the Nielsen VideoScan numbers, courtesy of Home Media Magazine as for the first time Blu is able to reduce Red to less than 10 percent of the market. The two big winners this week were AVP: Requiem and the Academy Award winning Juno. Both of these titles easily out sold the old favorite by a considerable margin. Normally we like to compare Blu-ray's performance to DVD and try to figure out why Blu only garnered 6 percent of the top 20 market, but shortly after we grabbed these charts from the digital copy of Home Media Magazine, it was removed and hasn't been reposted since -- warning dead read link. So we'll skip right to looking forward to next week, which doesn't look good but doesn't look bad either. It's hard to say how well the NatGeo global warming flick will do, and although we're sure someone enjoyed it, we doubt a movie with subtitles will be able to make it to the top of the charts.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Truth Teller @ Apr 28th 2008 8:37AM
Everybodies high def actual sales numbers must be tiny, that 'since inception' number has barely moved
(HD DVD has only just moved to 32% this month and not the 33% it has been all of this year).
I'm not surprised the verses SD DVD stat is being dropped, no-one except the die-hard Blu-ray/PS3 gang would believe that in a movie disc market where SD DVD sell 750 million + discs annually and Blu-ray has yet to see even double figure annual sales that that equates to 4%, 6% or (hysterically) 8% of the market.
Blu-ray (in it's entire 2 years of being around) has yet to match just 2% of the SD DVD annual sales number.
Blu-ray is going nowhere, least of all into the mainstream mass-market.
That's a truth some guys just can't bear to see.
LMAO.
Mr. E @ Apr 28th 2008 9:33AM
Okay, I've been converted. It should be obvious to everybody that if a format hasn't been embraced by the mainstream in less than two years of existence it's obviously DOA and has no hope. Because everybody knows that DVD came out of the gate fully formed with zero problems and left VHS in the dust within two years, right? Oh, wait.
Blake @ Apr 28th 2008 10:59AM
"Everybodies high def actual sales numbers must be tiny, that 'since inception' number has barely moved
(HD DVD has only just moved to 32% this month and not the 33% it has been all of this year)."
All of this year?!? You mean all of 4 months compared to 2 years from its conception?!? LOL! Do you work out your sums on toilet paper and with a large green crayon?!?
"I'm not surprised the verses SD DVD stat is being dropped, no-one except the die-hard Blu-ray/PS3 gang would believe that in a movie disc market where SD DVD sell 750 million + discs annually and Blu-ray has yet to see even double figure annual sales that that equates to 4%, 6% or (hysterically) 8% of the market."
Yet again you jump to your own deluded conclusion "dead link? oh they must be giving up!!!!" LMAO! You really are a space cadet! How can you equate market success of a new technology to that of an established one that has been marketed for 10+ years, expect it to supercede it within such a short time frame and ultimately conclude it's failure!!! Well in the crazy, crazy mind of Truth Teller you can! Time to take your brain for it's annual service! I predict it will fail!
"Blu-ray (in it's entire 2 years of being around) has yet to match just 2% of the SD DVD annual sales number."
What happened to you always saying that Blu-ray would never surpass 1% of the market?!? Ooops! did that happen already?!? LAMO! damn, spelling mistake! that should b.....actually, no I was right the first time!
"Blu-ray is going nowhere, least of all into the mainstream mass-market."
Your track record of predicting the adoption of ANYTHING is laughable at best!
The TRUTH is Toshiba ain't paying your wage any more sunshine! AND for a shill your comments were shit! No original content, same old news, you were a joke and still are!
JimC @ Apr 28th 2008 11:03AM
TT
2009 will be year for HD disc media, 2008 and prior are/were the ALPHA and BETA periods, now that we have a single format, the HD TV markets is gaining momentum, the 2008 holiday season will be the true "launch" of HD disc media for mainstream...so all of your doomsday talk is laughable.
Again, you have been wrong about HD disc media on all accounts, why should *anyone* put any stock in anything you say? Just stop already, you're embarrassing yourself....
Augustus @ Apr 28th 2008 11:22AM
So since HD-DVD lost, Truth Teller bashes Blu-Ray for the hell of it. I guess he's right, HD movies will never take off. The only way HD movies were ever going to sell was to have HD-DVD. The video quality on HD-DVD was THAT much better, especially with all that extra capacity they had.... Come on now.
DrXym @ Apr 28th 2008 12:10PM
Augustus, you've pretty much nailed it. TT is an immature crybaby who spent months advocating HD DVD. But since his beloved format lost, he now advocates piracy, video on demand, upscaling, CH DVD, and storage formats which won't exist for years assuming they ever do. Anything basically which allows his clouded mind to pretend blu ray won't succeed. Ignore him or laugh at him. Both are valid options.
XDragon @ Apr 28th 2008 12:41PM
TT
once an idiot, always an idiot.
That's the truth of you that you can't see.
LMFAO ...blah blah....Loser
Jnas @ Apr 28th 2008 1:34PM
Omg! He's laughing at us guys! He added LMAO at the end of his post, so he must be having the last laugh! Arrhh, his "LMAO"s make me sooo angry!!! AhrHRH!!
^_^
Guy Incognito @ Apr 28th 2008 8:58AM
#1 Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem
Apparently, Blu-Ray owners have a lot of discretionary income and very little taste.
LiqwidZero @ Apr 28th 2008 10:12AM
No lie.
joe @ Apr 28th 2008 1:57PM
Very True.
Right now BD is being supported by a small group that weilds a great bit of purchase power.
This is why BD with such a small install base wield a such a large percentage of the top releases.
Sony made the right bet with the PS3. it turns out gamers are more likely to buy movies, cds and downloads than the normal consumer. They are also more likely to own a hd tv.
They buying power of gamers make a disproportionate impact in media markets. They aren't the ones buying 3 3.99 dvds of some 80's movie in walmart with Truthteller. They are buying $20 blurays of crap like AVP, and buying in mass.
Mr. E @ Apr 28th 2008 9:21AM
If Fox keeps doing this well in the top ten ranking, they won't have incentive to lower their standard $39.99 MSRP for BDs. I'm going to continue to boycott Fox BDs until they are at or below $20 retail price (on Amazon).
DrXym @ Apr 28th 2008 10:10AM
The release schedule on blu-ray.com suggests releases really start to ramp up in June. I expect we'll see some significant traction on those DVD shares once more HD releases appear day and date (and one case earlier) than the SD version.
They may as well dump the HD DVD charts entirely now and focus on the more interesting comparison.
LiqwidZero @ Apr 28th 2008 10:13AM
Hey, it's in the ninety percentile range, now. Look at that.
Steve @ Apr 28th 2008 11:23AM
That read link may be dead but this one isn't.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom744238HGT/index.php
Paul Fernandez @ Apr 28th 2008 11:28AM
If it's slick, bloody, and appeals to 14-year-olds, chances are very good that it'll hit #1. And who has more discretionary income than them or their parents these days, gas prices notwithstanding?
That said, I enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as Transformers, warts and all.
XDragon @ Apr 28th 2008 12:46PM
While I'm glad to see the numbers go up, I've yet to see a new release I will purchase until end of May with my last purchase being back in early March.
New movies lately suck and the back catalog new releases aren't for me but I'll patiently wait for the 20ish movies I want upgraded and the few new movies from this year that actually won't suck.
I'm glad to see Blu is looking good, I just wonder why huge sellers aren't being made for Blu 1st instead of some of these weaker old titles.
Okeygrak @ Apr 28th 2008 1:29PM
It's is astounding to me that Truth Teller continues to post here. Not only has he be proven time and time again to be completely worthless and irrelevant in both his assessment of the market and his "predictions", but he still shamelessly attempts to contribute his nonsensical and completely baseless fanatical banter.
Truth Teller, I end here offering you some words of advice that I am fairly certain is of the same sentiment of majority of the readers here:
Your opinions are worthless. There is no respect here to be earned from anyone. You've dug yourself into a shit storm so deep that we can barely hear the reverberations of your pathetically biased outcries through all the shit sandwiches you've eaten in the past months on this site trying to earn even a nano of respect and credibility. If one were to read your colorful history of comments, it would read like instruction manual on how to become an irrelevant ignoramus.
Although sadly you have not, the rest of readers here have moved on to concentrate on what this is all about: Getting the best possible quality and enjoyment for the movies they love on their respective home theater systems. There is no pathetic allegiance to a particular format, or a lingering bitterness for spending money on a box made of metal and plastic. I'm sure there is a place with like minded individuals as yourself TT where you can post your enlightening informative analysis. For the rest of us, that is a scary place where someone with a sound mind wouldn't dare venture.
Oh, and by the way,
LMAO.
StevenJ @ Apr 28th 2008 5:12PM
It took over 5 years for DVD to surpass VHS in sales. If BD takes as long, you may see another format come along. The biggest reason that BD is slow to catch on is due to its lack of features over DVD. Sure it has better video quality, but that is not enough. VHS was a tape that could wear out, and it took up a lot of space compared to DVD which had the number one benefit of instant scene selection. Those factors made people switch faster than expected. Even then, VHS was used for commercial movie release until 2006, and it is still the number one choice for recording tv shows. I still believe its a media that will die out slower than VHS. BD may well go the way of laserdiscs, but only time will tell.
Mr. E @ Apr 28th 2008 8:24PM
LaserDisc was a perfectly viable format for 20 years, and many of the [still] most desirable titles were available on it, including Star Wars episodes IV-VI, in OAR for the first time. LaserDisc pioneered the use of widescreen for home theater, digital surround sound, commentary tracks, etc. etc.
Speaking as a former LD owner, if Blu-ray "goes the way of LD" including the same amount of studio support (and the Criterion Collection), I would have no problem with that at all. A format doesn't have to be 100% mainstream to provide plenty of entertainment for a decade or two.
All that said, however, I still believe that Blu-ray will be embraced far more widely than LaserDisc ever was. Speaking from personal experience, once you spend a lot of time watching primetime TV in HD, you will not want to keep spend money on DVD when there's a true HD alternative.
Jove @ Apr 29th 2008 12:00AM
lets all ask ben drawbaugh if people can be banned from engadgethd. no seriously, many of us get behind the concept, they're bound to hear us. they already banned him from afterdawn and i know none of you want to see him here...
XDragon @ Apr 29th 2008 8:25AM
No surprise that he's banned elsewhere, he's saying things just to piss people off with no backing to his comments.
They should ban him but they won't because so many people post against him which they think is good.
They are right until people stop coming because they are sick of the same crap and by then its too late.
Mike @ Apr 29th 2008 12:19AM
Well I bought my HD DVD player for $99...and won't get blue ray till less then that price....BTW I thought prices would drop when it was only 1 format??? Anyway, my tivo basic players newest download lets me order movies thru amazon unboxed (i think) am going to compare that to quality of my cable companies VOD...but I am seeing more and more reason to wait on buying a HD media player. Either BD drop under $100 soon or a new format will be ready to replace it.
I wonder on the agreements the movie studios signed to support BD and not HD...if they can support ultra high def DVD when it comes out?
Truth Teller @ Apr 29th 2008 11:34AM
Hilarious
(and yes, I really am laughing my tiddlies off at some of you idiots)
the PS3 kiddies want to moan that not everyone blindly goes along with their infantile world domination dreams.
Tough luck sad sacks, you bought into a dead format too.
.....and you didn't even get the benefit of the ultra low pricing HD DVD owners enjoy.
Tell us the one about how Blu-ray has 8% of the market again, that was a funny one!
Truth Teller @ Apr 29th 2008 11:39AM
* quote
XDragon
until people stop coming because they are sick of the same crap and by then its too late.
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What?
You mean like the way anyone with a contrary view point that isn't devotional to the PS3 & blu-ray has largely been subject to repeated personal attacks by the pack of Blu-ray.com/PS3 kiddies until hounded out of these kind of forums?
You dreary ludicrous hypocrites.
Joe @ May 2nd 2008 6:50PM
You don't have a contrary point of view.
You are at an internet HD forum repeatedly stating that HD will not take off. You are trolling, working hard to piss people off.
You strive for the personal attacks because you lack any creditability on any issue that requires cognition. You seem like a frustrated politician lashing out at the opposing party view even if you supported it yesterday.
You are welcome to an opposing point of view, but for goodness sake man at least try to have a good argument. Try being right a few times on something. Reinvent yourself as something other than a corporate shill and a failed analyst.
Truth Teller @ Apr 29th 2008 5:04PM
No Joe, sadly for you guys HD does not = blu-ray.
The problem is with blu-ray, not HD.
But the fact that you instantly leap to pretend HD is all about blu-ray is as predictibly amusing as ever.
There are plenty of other HD sources besides the DRM infested gouge that blu-ray is.