Ask Engadget HD: Which ATSC tuner works best with 64-bit Vista?
"I'm looking for a TV tuner for a desktop PC that I'm planning on building, but I can't seem to find one without conflicting reviews. Which tuner works well with Vista x64 and can handle ATSC signals that will stand alone after February of 2009? I've noticed HDHomeRun, but I'd like to keep the cost down (below $100 or so) if possible, and I'm also hoping to find some sort of internal PCI / PCIe card -- though I won't argue with USB / external solutions."
With the plethora of options out there, we're sure some of you have found some real winners / losers. Don't hold back, open up and help Cody get his OTA HD on.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
brego @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:22PM
AVerMedia AVerTV Combo PCIe ATSC/NTSC/QAM TV Tuner Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100015
OTA, QAM HD support:
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/1/249871/ShowThread.aspx
I am running this card. Setup is tedious, but it works/looks great.
Zach Hardt @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:34PM
The Hauppauge PVR-500 worked fine for me, however under x64 most plug-ins do not work (like commercial skip) so I downgraded my OS to x86. It was a LOT less buggy and I haven't noticed much of a difference in performance.
chrism @ Apr 23rd 2008 1:53PM
The Hauppauge PVR-500 is an analog card, not ATSC
steedums @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:34PM
why do comments not show up. this is frustrating
shawnmos @ Apr 23rd 2008 2:01PM
I agree!
pahensley @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:36PM
I just purchased the one pictured in your article from newegg yesterday. It had a lot of good reviews. Hopefully it will get her tomorrow and i can play with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100014
wreckedchevy @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:46PM
i have 2 hauppauge pvr150's (using builtin drivers) in my vista home prem x64 rig using beyondtv and it works flawlessly.
wreckedchevy @ Apr 23rd 2008 12:55PM
of course it would probably be more helpful for cody and the rest of us if the comments ever show up....
MadMike @ Apr 23rd 2008 1:34PM
Wait, people actually use Vista?
rothgar @ Apr 23rd 2008 1:34PM
I have the HDHR and it works quite well. One thing you should also know about the HDHR is that you get two tuners. So really for $170 you are keeping it below $100 per tuner.
Josh @ Apr 23rd 2008 1:39PM
I noticed that a couple folks have recommended NTSC tuners, rather than the requested ATSC. So, I thought I'd let you know what I have under Vista x64 (and works). I'm using the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800. I haven't had a single problem with it and it fits nicely into that lonely PCIe X1 slot. I'm using it for OTA HD signals and it was also previously connected to a DirecTV SD box (for the NTSC side).
I just use Media Center included with Vista and the latest drivers from Hauppauge. No worries. :)
shawnmos @ Apr 23rd 2008 2:01PM
If you plan on using Vista x64, avoid Hauppauge tuners like the plague. They don't work if you have more than 3gb of ram, completly defeating the purpose of using a 64bit operating system. This is why I pulled out my Hauppauge HVR-1600 and replaced it with an HD Homerun for QAM support and an ATI TV Wonder 550 for NTSC support.
McPace @ Apr 23rd 2008 5:51PM
shawnmos I've been running my x64 vista with TWO hauppauges and 4gigs of ram for over a year with not a single problem, sounds like you've got user errors.
Cody, hauppauges are the way to go! I've been recording HD, recording analog, and watching live HD all while streaming to a laptop. Get your 4gigs or RAM and veg out.
gama69g @ Apr 23rd 2008 2:30PM
If you get the AVerMedia AVerTV Combo PCIe, download the beta drivers. The reception is much improved from the WHQL drivers. Get them at
ftp.aver.com
user name: beta
password: betatest
Got to M780 folder.
Matt @ Apr 23rd 2008 2:45PM
I have a Hauppauge 1600 ($79.99 at CC) and Vista 64-bit w/Sp1 and I have had zero issues. MPEG-2 encoding built-in works great and really takes the load off the CPU. I am able to stream live and recorded TV to my 360 flawlessly.
Paul Moon @ Apr 25th 2008 2:28PM
You make a common error when you describe hardware MPEG2 transcoding capability. This does not exist for, and does not even apply to, any DTV transmission which is already in MPEG2 format.
It's up to your display video card to use hardware MPEG2 decoding for a smooth picture with low CPU utilization.
img eL @ Apr 23rd 2008 3:20PM
I would say get the fusionHDTV7 RT Gold cause it has all the latest chips. I have the USB version cause i have notebooks. I think the pci version is more diesel cause it has more chips. Good luck
Leroy Vargas @ Apr 30th 2008 1:08AM
I have the FusionHDTV5 RT Gold PCI ATSC tuner. Works perfect with Vista x64, except when I bring my computer to standby mode (for some strange reason that might be related to my motherboard); every day it wakes up my computer from Hibernation mode to record my favorite TV shows. Note that here I use the latest FusionHDTV software rather than the Vista Media Center software - FusionHDTV, with some downloadable plugin, can record to native MPEG-2 format (.MPG) which I can later play on CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra which is the best DVD/Blu-ray playback software ever. Would like to know more about that new FusionHDTV7 card, is it PCIe?
Keefer Madness @ Apr 23rd 2008 5:32PM
This could be off topic but does anybody know if the HDPC-20 will play nice with 64-bit Vista?
Maruko @ Apr 23rd 2008 10:00PM
I also go for AVerTV Combo PCIE. From gama69g's comment, it seems that AVerTV Bravo Hybrid PCIE also has QAM support under Vista MCE.
Jnetty @ Apr 23rd 2008 11:24PM
Hauppauge HVR-1250 is a PCIe slot card with NTSC/ATSC/QAM with a single port and its under $50 bucks.
Tyler @ Apr 24th 2008 10:01AM
I'm using the Vista View Saber DA-1N1-I Combo Analog/Digital PCI TV Tuner Card, and it works wonders for me. I'm using it with regular 32-bit Vista though. The product page at Amazon.com says it "comes with Microsoft Vista and MCE certified BDA drivers, which work flawlessly with Microsoft Vista" but doesn't say anything about 32 or 64 bit versions. You can also get a PCIe version. I get great reception and picture quality using the ATSC tuner (the NTSC tuner works just as great too).
http://www.amazon.com/Vista-Saber-DA-1N1-I-Analog-Digital/dp/B000TQ9L9G/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1209044776&sr=8-2
Paul Moon @ Apr 25th 2008 2:31PM
I have the Hauppauge HVR-1600 and can report that Hauppauge confirms there is no interest on their part in making the card compatible with the Vista 64-bit OS for one of the card's vital functions, analog capture. That input is totally nonfunctional, even though the product clearly advertises that feature. It is essential not only for generic analog video capture duties, but also very significantly for people who have digital cable/FiOS tuner boxes and need to record premium content onto their computer.
Leroy Vargas @ Apr 30th 2008 1:13AM
FusionHDTV ATSC cards also capture analog S-Video - and work with Vista 64-bit (DViCO 1, Hauppauge 0). I have the FusionHDTV5 RT Gold PCI and I am totally happy with it. Plus its downloadable software has the option to record to native MPEG-2 format (.MPG) which you can later watch with DVD/Blu-ray software like CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra (FusionHDTV 1, Win Media Center 0)