They have been anti-blu-ray from the beginning. They wanted HD DVD to win because it was more consumer friendly (easier to crack) and told all of their customers to get HD DVD.
LMAO. You pathetic & weak jubes only cause me to laugh out loud, ta for the (very) mild amusement.
@ Mr Stevo
Actually AACS is/was common to both Blu-ray & HD DVD (and yes that was cracked fundamentally some time ago).
Blu-ray also has a couple of extras all of it's own, including hardware based watermarking as well as BD+.
Slysoft (rightly) couldn't abide BD+ cos they recognise it for the clunky huge problem-in-waiting that it is.
Naturally (so as not to frighten off initial customers) the Blu-ray gang have been avoiding using BD+ much to begin with but now Blu-ray is alone that is undoubtedly going to change.
I expect the numerous revised versions of BD+ to begin to appear & with them the host of Blu-ray problems they will undoubtedly spawn.
We're into a game of crack and counter-patch now.
But meantime the sharers will be ripping Blu-ray movies everytime a crack comes along.
Like I said, thanks for the 500+ freeebie high def movies, PS3 fanboy chumps!
They are perfectly entitled to hold a view over which format was the more consumer friendly & unfriendly.
The game of move and counter-move we are about to see is bound to leave people with serious problems (even those who have had nothing to do with Slysolf or cracks).
Fundamentally the whole 'security' mentality is just out-dated, absurd, wholly counter-productive and so utterly rooted in a crazed greed which has become the entire justification in itself.
But if you're one of the saps that want all of that then go ahead, enjoy, no-one will stop you needlessly pi$$ing your cash away (least of all the corporations some of you are so f*cked up as to claim to 'love').
There are more than enough of the rest of us giving it the finger and carrying on finding er, 'alternative' methods' around all that BS.
.......cos the truth is that 'we' have already paid more than enough as it is.
@Truth Teller: I don't get the "PS3 fanboy chumps!" comment considering BD-R/W 25/50GB 1:1 copies can be played on the PS3 once ripped, as well as HD DiVX/H.234/XViD/WMV/etc. So yeah, I don't really feel ripped off owning a Sony console that can play games as well as view various forms of media (which will continue to grow... I will willingly give my soul to Sony if they were to ever natively support FLAC and/or MKV... there is nothing that would legally prevent them from doing so as both can be licensed).
Truth Teller: Do you have any arguments that are relevant?
You act as if you're arguing about whether DRM is a good thing or not. I don't see anyone on here defending DRM.
Slysoft makes their money selling DRM defeat mechanisms. I'm not going to say that means they welcome new DRMs, but it sure doesn't hurt them. Also their willingness to attack DRM on DVD, HD-DVD and PC (gamejackal) makes it absurd to say they somehow cannot brook the industry adopting new DRM.
Anyway, we're getting far afield. The point is they have shown themselves willing to take money from BluRay customers while simultaneously trying to undercut those customers' investments by telling people to try to defeat BluRay in the marketplace and now withholding releases that would benefit those paying customers.
It's one thing to have principles, to say we're all going to boycott BluRay and defeat it together. It's another to take money from BluRay users while simultaneously chiding them and working against them.
Mr Stevo, that doesn't make any sense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Blu-Ray was cracked earlier on, that would have helped HD DVD and the studios would have had less incentive to go the Blu-Ray route. So waiting hurt HD DVD and helped Blu-Ray.
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Gas @ Mar 30th 2008 11:21AM
I call bullshit on Slysofts "explanation". Why the hell would they care about the outcome of the format war to release this.
I also call bullshit on anything Truth Teller says or predicts.
Mr Stevo @ Mar 30th 2008 11:25AM
Well, I think that they were just being lazy and hoping that HD-DVD would've won because they already had decrypted their stuff.
shawnmos @ Mar 30th 2008 12:17PM
They have been anti-blu-ray from the beginning. They wanted HD DVD to win because it was more consumer friendly (easier to crack) and told all of their customers to get HD DVD.
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 12:31PM
@ Gas.
LMAO. You pathetic & weak jubes only cause me to laugh out loud, ta for the (very) mild amusement.
@ Mr Stevo
Actually AACS is/was common to both Blu-ray & HD DVD
(and yes that was cracked fundamentally some time ago).
Blu-ray also has a couple of extras all of it's own, including hardware based watermarking as well as BD+.
Slysoft (rightly) couldn't abide BD+ cos they recognise it for the clunky huge problem-in-waiting that it is.
Naturally (so as not to frighten off initial customers) the Blu-ray gang have been avoiding using BD+ much to begin with but now Blu-ray is alone that is undoubtedly going to change.
I expect the numerous revised versions of BD+ to begin to appear & with them the host of Blu-ray problems they will undoubtedly spawn.
We're into a game of crack and counter-patch now.
But meantime the sharers will be ripping Blu-ray movies everytime a crack comes along.
Like I said, thanks for the 500+ freeebie high def movies, PS3 fanboy chumps!
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Mar 30th 2008 12:55PM
Truth Teller, slysoft makes their money cracking DRM. Saying they can't abide by a new format with DRM is ridiculous.
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 2:35PM
@ why not the LS2/LS7?
No, it's not ridiculous.
They are perfectly entitled to hold a view over which format was the more consumer friendly & unfriendly.
The game of move and counter-move we are about to see is bound to leave people with serious problems (even those who have had nothing to do with Slysolf or cracks).
Fundamentally the whole 'security' mentality is just out-dated, absurd, wholly counter-productive and so utterly rooted in a crazed greed which has become the entire justification in itself.
But if you're one of the saps that want all of that then go ahead, enjoy, no-one will stop you needlessly pi$$ing your cash away
(least of all the corporations some of you are so f*cked up as to claim to 'love').
There are more than enough of the rest of us giving it the finger and carrying on finding er, 'alternative' methods' around all that BS.
.......cos the truth is that 'we' have already paid more than enough as it is.
Tony Rayo @ Mar 30th 2008 2:45PM
@Truth Teller: I don't get the "PS3 fanboy chumps!" comment considering BD-R/W 25/50GB 1:1 copies can be played on the PS3 once ripped, as well as HD DiVX/H.234/XViD/WMV/etc. So yeah, I don't really feel ripped off owning a Sony console that can play games as well as view various forms of media (which will continue to grow... I will willingly give my soul to Sony if they were to ever natively support FLAC and/or MKV... there is nothing that would legally prevent them from doing so as both can be licensed).
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Mar 30th 2008 3:45PM
Truth Teller:
Do you have any arguments that are relevant?
You act as if you're arguing about whether DRM is a good thing or not. I don't see anyone on here defending DRM.
Slysoft makes their money selling DRM defeat mechanisms. I'm not going to say that means they welcome new DRMs, but it sure doesn't hurt them. Also their willingness to attack DRM on DVD, HD-DVD and PC (gamejackal) makes it absurd to say they somehow cannot brook the industry adopting new DRM.
Anyway, we're getting far afield. The point is they have shown themselves willing to take money from BluRay customers while simultaneously trying to undercut those customers' investments by telling people to try to defeat BluRay in the marketplace and now withholding releases that would benefit those paying customers.
It's one thing to have principles, to say we're all going to boycott BluRay and defeat it together. It's another to take money from BluRay users while simultaneously chiding them and working against them.
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 4:35PM
Yeah 'why not the LS2/LS7?', imagine anyone bringing up what a 'security/DRM' sh!thouse Blu-ray is in a thread about Slysoft & BD+.
You guys. Very funny.
DrXym @ Mar 31st 2008 5:16AM
Yup, you can count on Truth Teller to come out with some childish spin on any piece of news.
Stormprobe @ Apr 4th 2008 9:04AM
Mr Stevo,
that doesn't make any sense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Blu-Ray was cracked earlier on, that would have helped HD DVD and the studios would have had less incentive to go the Blu-Ray route. So waiting hurt HD DVD and helped Blu-Ray.