Well, it's no surprise that it was going to happen, but the HD DVD Promotion Group officially dissolved today, leaving behind nothing but this terse message on its website, directing us to "individual selling agencies." And so, with literally nothing left of HD DVD, we formally close the sad chapter of consumer electronics history known as the HD Format War, remembering those times
when HD DVD rode high, with low prices, more features and less restrictive rights management as its rallying cry, and the
rantings of Michael Bay still only the delusional fantasies of a fool. May the resistance live on, and our PS3s always be reminded of a time when their ascension was not guaranteed. Red's dead, baby.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
HD-DVDsucsmyballs @ Mar 28th 2008 10:14PM
Yea - I could of told you all this when I bought my Sony Blu-ray Studio notebook in 2006 - but I guess we all can't be as gifted with foreseeing the future like I did.
So let me just rub my crystal balls and tell you something else - these "flash drives" SSd or whatever will never be how I collect movies - thank-you, but, If I drop - shock - or lay one of my BD disks on a or near a speaker magnet - guess what - IT STILL WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIE, HD-DVD, DIE
SPLURP - That was me spitting on it's grave!
Oh yeah - Sony Rules!!!!!!
Does anyone else wish to comment?????????
Killer @ Mar 28th 2008 10:24PM
No, you pretty much summed up "everything". "Everything" being you're ignorance.
Xyzzy @ Mar 28th 2008 10:34PM
I'd like to comment, Mr. Troll. You've shown your ignorance on flash drive technology by implying a magnet will destroy the data.
Jove @ Mar 28th 2008 11:01PM
LOL! what did hd dvd did to you that you wanted it to die so bad?
maybe, if you feel real passionate about defending blu ray, you could go one on one against truth teller when he feels like going at it? so we can all laugh and remember the good ol' days when the 'war' was still raging?
hehe that would be entertaining for sure.
John B @ Mar 29th 2008 1:18AM
Looks like h4ldol is back ... unfortunately.
HD4ME @ Mar 29th 2008 9:04AM
The words "Ignorant Pig" spring to mind
Xeudi @ Mar 31st 2008 10:12AM
You my ignorant friend are a tool!
HD-DVDsucsmyballs @ Mar 28th 2008 10:42PM
OK - we got 2 sore losers - any others need to boo-hoo a little?
BTW - why do I care about SSD I've got Blue - and not one of those sissy Dell's with the kiddie screen on 'em!
Killer @ Mar 28th 2008 10:57PM
"OK - we got 2 sore losers - any others need to boo-hoo a little?"
That's strange I own both formats, even before the format war was over. How does that make me a loser? Oh wait it doesn't. I'm a consumer that loves HD. So I bought both and I have no favorites, but I will defend something I own from a Complete Troll full of stupidity. The only thing you're proving is how foolish you really are. Remember what Mark Twain once said:
"It's Better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
You should take that advice, even though I'm sure it's too late to save yourself.
DrXym @ Mar 31st 2008 4:47AM
"DrXym
the changes to firmware most certainly are not "trivial".
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You'll have to point out where anyone ever said otherwise."
You said it cretin - "The rest is only a matter of mere badges on the case & a slightly different firmware."
There is nothing "slightly" about it. CH DVD would require a major change to firmware as well as hardware modifications for modulation.
Grow up baby and get over your fixation with HD DVD. It lost.
Jove @ Mar 28th 2008 10:59PM
wow... dont ever, ever, ever, ever under estimate the power of the playstation brand and the spending of the early adopters. oh well... too bad for them. im sure people will keep enjoying the movies the bought and will buy at those rock bottom prices.
HD-DVDsucsmyballs @ Mar 28th 2008 11:11PM
Well since we can only watch "The Format War" on Blu-ray since any editing systems that formatted HD-DVD's will be only be used as stands to set our Blu-ray drives on . . .?
DrXym @ Mar 29th 2008 5:20AM
I wonder what the total demise of HD DVD means for CH-DVD.
Xyzzy @ Mar 29th 2008 10:14AM
That's an excellent point that I brought up on AVS awhile ago. China's official format, last I heard, is still CH-DVD which is 100% compatible with HD DVD. So the format will live on, although pre-recorded media won't. Not sure who gets royalties from that though... Or how that whole thing works...
DrXym @ Mar 29th 2008 12:56PM
I don't think its 100% compatible. It uses a different disk encoding method, different copy protection, lacks HDi and implements a codec called AVS which is different from AVC / VC-1 / MPEG2.
http://img.zdnet.com.cn/storage/20070709/CHINA-HD.png
I think that even if CH-DVD lives on that it doesn't mean existing HD DVD players will be able to play the content or vice versa.
Truth Teller @ Mar 29th 2008 3:23PM
HD DVD China (which is the up-to-date correct name) is 100% identical to 'our' HD DVD as far as the hardware is concerned.
The rest is only a matter of mere badges on the case & a slightly different firmware.
DrXym @ Mar 30th 2008 5:02AM
Truth Teller, no it isn't compatible at all. You've been spouting this nonsense for ages and haven't even bothered to research it for ten minutes. The disk modulation is different, the supported codecs are different, the DRM is different and the interactive layer or lack thereof is different. If you think HD DVD and CH-DVD are "compatible" you are sadly mistaken. They share a lot of similarities but you are deluded if you believe a CH-DVD disk will play in any HD DVD player or vice versa.
The Authoritative HD DVD FAQ goes even further "Is there an HD DVD-ROM version being developed specially for the Chinese market" - "First proposed in May 2005 by OMNERC, the China Blue High-Definition Disc (CBHD) or China HD DVD-ROM (C-HD DVD-ROM) format (formerly called China High Definition DVD (CH-DVD) and HD DVD-ROM for China Only) employs a Four-to-Six Modulation (FSM) encoding system, instead of HD DVD's standard Eight-to-Twelve Modulation (ETM), and thus is incompatible with players and drives sold in the rest of the world. Other differences include CBHDs use of a simplified navigation system, the Audio Video Standard (AVS) and Digital Round Audio (DRA) codecs as well as the China Digital Rights Management System (CDRM)."
http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11631#iie
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 9:18AM
DrXym
As usual you misread (or willfully ignore) what I wrote so as to constuct your own ridiculous strawman argument.
I never said HD DVD China was identical to 'our' HD DVD.
I said the hardware was (as it is).
HD DVD China uses the Toshiba HD A3 as it's 'reference design', the hardware is identical.
Did you get that?
The hardware is identical.
Perhaps if you had bothered reading properly what was actually written you wouldn't end up making such laughably idiotic posts, eh?
DrXym @ Mar 30th 2008 1:55PM
Truth Teller, no cretin what you actually said was "HD DVD China (which is the up-to-date correct name) is 100% identical to 'our' HD DVD as far as the hardware is concerned. The rest is only a matter of mere badges on the case & a slightly different firmware."
Neither is the case. The modulation is different and the firmware is very substantially different requiring new DRM and codecs.
There is not a cat's chance in hell that your Toshiba player will *ever* support CH DVD and probably next to zero chance that any CH DVD player will ever support the defunct HD DVD spec.
Your delusional, immature and willfully ignorant opinions will not change that fact one iota.
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 2:54PM
LMAO
Typical googling d!ck spinning in circles spouting barely understood BS cos s/he can't bear to admit being wrong.
First you complain (and hilariously quote me) for saying what I clearly did not actually say.
Look closely and you'll see in every instance I have said the hardware is identical between HD DVD & HD DVD China.
You're also entirely wrong about modulation.
That is a function of the software/firmware as the hardware itself is identical.
Fail
DrXym @ Mar 30th 2008 6:22PM
Truth Teller, spin it any way you like. You are completely wrong. As usual. Modulation and error correction are likely to be implemented in hardware and therefore not modifiable. And even if they weren't, the changes to firmware most certainly are not "trivial". You are completely wrong either way. This is not surprising seeing as you have some childish obsession with HD DVD and problems denying its complete failure. Please feel free to hold out for CH DVD support on your HD DVD player for as long as you like. Despite your wishful thinking, it will never, ever happen.
Truth Teller @ Mar 30th 2008 7:30PM
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DrXym
Modulation and error correction are likely to be implemented in hardware and therefore not modifiable.
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"likely"
LMAO, talk about guessing and pretending you have a clue.
The hardware is identical numb-skull, the differences are in the software/firmwares controlling it.
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DrXym
And even if they weren't
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I guess this is as close to an admission that you don't know what you're talking about.
LMAO yet again.
Pathetic.
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DrXym
the changes to firmware most certainly are not "trivial".
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You'll have to point out where anyone ever said otherwise.
Mind you code is code and changing one for the other (given identical hardware, which is the case) is hardly the greatest taxing task ever.
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DrXym
You are completely wrong either way.
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Er, no, I have been correct in this both ways.
1) HD DVD and HD DVD China use the same hardware and
2) the differences revolve around firmware/softwares.
Fail
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DrXym
This is not surprising seeing as you have some childish obsession with HD DVD
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The only 'child' I see around here talking about this is the infantile feeble twit who imagines his/her inaccurate weak bleatings constitute fact in this.
You're plain wrong.
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and problems denying its complete failure.
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Again you'll have to point out where I denied anything.
Pointing out that Blu-ray is a failure too is hardly a denial of HD DVD's fate.
Fail. Again.
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DrXym
Please feel free to hold out for CH DVD support on your HD DVD player for as long as you like.
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Another rather pathetic & laughably lame invention of your own.
Like many HD DVD owners I bought a 2nd player to tuck away so that I will not have any difficulties playing back my HD DVD movies over the course of the (at least) next 10yrs or so.
All at a cost far below any remotely comparable Blu-ray option.
I have no need of any further support, actually.
Fail (epically) once again. Fool.
DrXym @ Mar 31st 2008 5:34AM
"DrXym
the changes to firmware most certainly are not "trivial".
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You'll have to point out where anyone ever said otherwise."
You said it cretin - "The rest is only a matter of mere badges on the case & a slightly different firmware."
There is nothing "slightly" about it. CH DVD would require a major change to firmware to support new DRM and codecs as well as hardware modifications for modulation. Yes hardware. Modulation is most likely done through a circuit well before the general firmware goes anywhere near it. And as stated, even if it were firmware the changes including codecs and DRM are not trivial.
You are wrong.
Grow up baby and get over your fixation with HD DVD. It lost.
Chris Russell @ Mar 29th 2008 7:40AM
The good die young and the bad will pollute the world with their shackled technology.
R.I.P HD-DVD - you were the best
HDpurist @ Mar 29th 2008 4:45PM
HD-DVD was the worst medium in the history of mankind. A lifespan of not even 2 years. HD-DVD is easily now the new term for Betamax (which had a life of 27 years). Garbage, will never buy a Toshiba product ever again....not that I've bought anything recently in the past 20 years LOL.
R.I.P. HD-DVD Farm - so glad you're done wasting people's time.
Roberta @ Mar 29th 2008 4:48PM
Michael Bay IS a fool.......AND he makes crappy movies.