http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/ Engadget HD Comments for Format heaven: 10 other failures HD DVD will meet http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
The HD DVD player I own right now plays back MPEG2, AVC and VC-1 in HD. There are no less than 30 HD camcorders out there of which my Canon SD camera will eventually get replaced (most likely by a flash based model). To assume that my investment in HD DVD suddenly became worthless because I cannot buy "pre-recorded" media totally ignores my ability to repurpose HD content on DVD-R from other sources. I'm not Hollywood's bytch. ]]>Mar 21st 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Like the others I will use mine for what it was intended, that is to play the now many cheap HD movies i have purchased and the hundreds of DVD's I own.
On my XA2 they look damn near HD so DVD is good enough for me, especially new releases filmed digitally, it's hard to tell the difference on a quality DVD transfer.

This article is yet another condescending slap from the blu bigots who call themselves journalists.
So you go back to you jar of Vaseline and your BR player and have a nice day!]]>Mar 21st 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
Is your HD-DVD player worthless? No, not really. Go ahead and play all those cheap HD-DVD discs.
upscaled DVD content looking as good as HD-DVD? That is complete bullshit. Your format lost, but you can at least maintain your dignity.]]>Mar 22nd 2008 2:34AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX]]>Mar 22nd 2008 1:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
The first sentence, the one you reference, was a back reference to an already discussed topic. This article is about the FORMAT!!! Again, reading comprehension is failing you...]]>Mar 22nd 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 6:24PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 6:35PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 7:24PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
My HD DVD player is also a quality DVD player and a CD player so even without HD discs it still has function and purpose, unlike the other dead formats listed, and also, I knew the risks when I purchased my XA2, I bought it first and foremost as an upscaling DVD player that also plays HD DVDs.]]>Mar 21st 2008 7:40PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 8:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 8:06PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/How the @**! would you know !
I bought my XA2 "AFTER" HD DVD died as the best DVD upscaler on the market, I got it new for $290 with 10 HD movies and bought it as a DVD upscaler first and foremost!
Why, because i will not support blu, my choice, and i want the best i can get out of DVDs, so GFY.]]>Mar 21st 2008 8:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
I find it hard that anyone would have so much hate for the other format that they'd "never" buy it. At some point one of your all time favorite movies will come out on Blu - won't it be worth it to enjoy that movie in the best possible format? It's not like you're buying drugs on the street that cause columbian villagers to get gunned down in a drug war. It's just gadget tech... either way your money would be going overseas to an asian manufacturer.

Blu may not have been on par with HDDVD from many aspects, but it's not like VHS versus Beta. VC-1 on Blu looks identical to Blu.

I'm not trying to be an asshole. But it seems trite when HD-DVD fanboys start claiming they'll never buy Blu.]]>Mar 21st 2008 9:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/The wars over, I don't care any more, blu ray won, good luck to them.
Me personally, I wont support them, I'm not bitter, it's just my opinion and I will live without blu.
I just wont support anything sony, and please don't tell me BR is not sony, it is, the others are just along for the ride. I cant/wont support a company hell bent on root kits, draconian DRM, a company that treats me like a criminal, and whatever else they dream up to infect their customers machines with.
It's just my opinion, thats all, so I will not support blu.
What i have learnt however, and your right about picture quality, is that "quality" upscaled DVDs are so good, many are better than some HD DVDs I own, and there in lies the answer for ME.
I have learned that recently made DVDs in particular look brilliant on my XA2 and I am happy with that, another poster recently said about "Apocalypto" on DVD, a new digitally mastered DVD. I tried it , it is better than many of my HD DVDs, not as good as all, but better than many, but good enough that it looks HD to me. Many HD movies have poor transfers as do DVDs and you get the corresponding results.
I will stick with DVD's on my XA2 and be very happy with that,if they have a quality transfer they are brilliant, I don't need blu, I am very satisfied.]]>Mar 21st 2008 10:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
I hate these pointless arguments. Would I rather HD DVD win, yes! But they didn't. Deal with it.]]>Mar 21st 2008 7:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
Yes, the war is over and blu-ray won. PS3 owners rejoice. Certainly no one who owned both standalones would.

And maybe before the year is out there will be a decent standalone BD player. The Panny BD30 might qualify if it could upconvert worth a darn, which it can't. Maybe the BD50. Then maybe the price will come down to earth before NEXT year is out. Sigh.

BD 2009 = HD 2006. Maybe.

Except of course, that BD is now the only game in town. Resignation is a bi*ch.]]>Mar 21st 2008 8:00PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
Good old RCA SelectaVision, first time I ever saw Star Wars.]]>Mar 21st 2008 8:56PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 21st 2008 10:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
DIVX discs were in Full-Screen only (NO widescreen titles) and did NOT have any special bonus features. Also, Fox was primarily releasing on DIVX (Disney too), and only occasionally released a title on regular DVD. By the way, Sony and Warner NEVER supported or released titles on DIVX.

CED (like LaserDisc) held 2 hours on a disc (two sides). Since Raiders of the Lost Ark has a running time of 115 minutes, it did NOT require a 2nd disc (see comment above) - both the CED and LaserDisc were on one disc. However, any movie over 2 hours required a 2nd disc, although a few movies that were just a few minutes beyond the two hours were often released 'time-compressed' so as to fit on one, 2-sided disc.]]>Mar 21st 2008 11:02PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
DIVX was aimed at people who wanted something simple that would work with their 10-year-old TV. To this day I see no reason why a parallel distribution for those folks was a bad idea. So what if it offended the technically aware? It was never intended for them.]]>Mar 22nd 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
As for some of the comments in this thread. Yes HD DVD owners are lucky that their player supports DVD & CD but that doesn't make HD DVD any less dead than it is. My CDi player could play CDs and VideoCDs that was a small consolation when CDi was dead and VideoCDs were too in Europe.

Fortunately I didn't buy my CDi (it was a prize), only owned one VideoCD and thought the video quality was terrible even at the time. So the only downside of loss was storing an obsolete machine. It lived in a carrier bag until I unloaded it on a charity. But I imagine I would be very upset if I had made some emotional investment in the format.

You shouldn't be an early adopter if you can't cope with backing the wrong format.
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I own both format(s) - just thought it was funny Sony had three on the list. I have to admire the innovation.

Viva la HD DVD!]]>Mar 22nd 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/
was an interesting idea ... movie on a record ...

The best thing about HD-DVD though is now I can buy lots of movies on the cheap to play in my Samsung BD-UP5000]]>Mar 22nd 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Yeah, you missed it.]]>Mar 27th 2008 2:42PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/21/format-heaven-10-other-failures-hd-dvd-will-meet/Mar 25th 2008 12:34PM