http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/ Engadget HD Comments for Scene selection on Blu-ray http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 12:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 12:48PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
Ben, you have written many stories on the lack of 2.0 and such, but sometimes there are some good things happening like subchapters, which we never had on dvd, that could also be newsworthy.

To colclude, visit the site daily for news, great job, I like the fact that day or night, you keep updating, great job with that and the weekly audio feed that you do.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
Get a good shot of it and I'll post it.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
Are you telling me that when I get a BR player, I'm going back to DVD menus? I hate those things. Seriously, I don't know. What's the situation?]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 1:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
Anyways, back on topic, I'm more of a HD nut than a movie buff, so I really don't care for the whole scene selection thing. I just rent my BD movies off Blockbuster, watch the thing from beginning until the end, then the extras, then finally return it. As long as I'm utilizing my HDTV and surround system, I'm good to go.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
My problem is that many times I don't get to finish a movie in the same sitting, so the next day I have to figure out where I left. The smart thing to do would be to just not the chapter, but even then selecting the scene would be easier with more scenes on the screen at once.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/1. If the disc is HDMV (not java) then the interactive graphics are limited to only 256 colors for everything. This means if you enlarged your thumbnails the size of HD your graphics would like web pages from 1995
2. This is a 16Mb cache even for java discs for the interactive graphics. Large thumbnails for a movie with 30 chapter points would eat that cache very quickly. That means it may not be possible you can believe that! Sony dumbed down Blu-ray so that movie discs wouldn't actually compete with game discs. ]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 1:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 7:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
I've done that on some movies to use as reference (like the Batman Begins train scene, for example).
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http://java.sun.com/developer/media/deepdivebluray.jsp

Here the geniuses at SUN are talking about BD-J being soo much better than regular DVD interactivity. Check it out at about the 4 minute mark.

In comparing BluRay to regular DVD they say, "you select a movie and it goes 'clunk-clunk-clunk-clunk...' and then plays the movie." I never thought of DVD's as being slow to react. And so far what BD titles are loading faster than their SD counterparts? Some BD titles take several minutes to load the main menu.

Then he goes on to say that while you're playing a regular DVD you CAN'T go back into the movie. What planet are these people from? I know that they are speaking of menus over video, but they make regular DVDs out to be some "clunky" interface that is so awful

Also.. WHO REALLY wants their movie experience screwed up with a menu going over top of it? I don't. I would much rather pause the movie and do my menu selections and go back in.. not that it's ever an issue anyway. If you pause to hit the restroom or grab a drink you just press the pause button and do what you gotta do.

Their next example is if you want to change the subtitles or turn them off. They are suggesting that rather hit a "subtitle" button on a remote control and have it instantly change - that you should have to bring up a menu THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE STUDIO. Again.. where is that BETTER than the clunky old way of just pressing a button?

They also should have done some fact checking... "you can have an entire season of a television series on one disc." True only if it's an SD TV show - which also defeats the purpose of those new 1080P displays.

All I'm saying is that we need to learn from the dvd interface designs of the past. HD DVD and BD both have been pushing designs based on form and based on the fact that they want to show off the new features of the formats. NOT based on the functionality of what works well and what doesn't.

I am a DVD author and was transitioning into HD DVD and now am forced to instead transition into BD. (war is over move on) BEN, in my designs I am looking to use the technology to make things better for the consumer (not just better for the studio). So I'm listening.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
Options are always good, as different people find different options easy.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
I have a friend who was very frustrated with HD DVD because he pressed the Subtitle button on the remote and it brought up a message up that said "to change subtitles use the subtitle menu." So on that disc it forced him to bring a menu up over his movie to change the option.

My point is that the HD DVD and BD technology people (technology evangelists) have pushed "format abilities" on the studios, which has lead to stupid features. The abilities don't necessarily relate well to good features. Good authors will turn the abilities into usable features over time. But in the short term we are stuck with things like U-Control. PLEASE UNIVERSAL.. DO AWAY WITH THIS WHEN YOU MOVE TO BD. It's the worst!

How do you think the BD feature set was decided upon? What group of people sat in a room and settled on what it would and would not do? My question is what qualifications did they have? Were they designers or nerds? I fear that the guy in that Sun video was the typical person in that room deciding our entertainment fate.]]>Mar 17th 2008 2:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
The PS3 should definitely have that.]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:45PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 2:08PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 2:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 2:34PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
It was fun to mess with using Sunshine... turning on/off the PIP while in the movie, using the small menu on the bottom (taking up the black bar)]]>Mar 17th 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Have a scrub bar just below the chapters and you can use the left and right buttons to scroll to the point in the movie and when you hit enter, it jumps to that point. Just my 2 cents.]]>Mar 17th 2008 2:23PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/Mar 17th 2008 3:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
But now with HD-DVD out of the way, I can't wait to see BD-J (hopefully) fully utilized in new releases this year and beyond.]]>Mar 17th 2008 9:49PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
In fact, the push TO COMPLETE the spec was completely attributable to HDDVD. Blu-ray 1.1 and 2.0 probably wouldn't include half the features they will if it weren't for HDDVD.


You can quit with the flame posts now, the war is over and the incomplete format has won. Please send your accoloades to Sony, or just send copies of a few HDDVD's so that they can see examples of what features you're wanting in the final BR spec.


That said, I hope they fully implement a whole slew of new useful and non-useful features, but considering how half ass BRD has been to this point, I'd put the probably of getting every feature of HDDVD and more in the single digits.]]>Mar 17th 2008 11:06PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
This is why it was better for HD-DVD and Blu to compete for a while so the consumer could win.

Is it just me or is Blu like Premeium Gasoline, more money for something a little bit better. ]]>Mar 18th 2008 4:36AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/scene-selection-on-blu-ray/
It's more expensive, and your car won't run quite right (if at all).]]>Mar 18th 2008 10:28AM