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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
north @ Mar 12th 2008 9:58PM
Think your reading too much into it. The prices had increased at the beginning of the year too while the whole thing was still going on. There's probably just no sale going right now.
Nfinity @ Mar 12th 2008 10:07PM
There's nothing to read into.. Every logical person who supported interest of consumers through HD DVD who gave more, said that this would happen. It's common sense.
We all knew BDA plans. Kill HD DVD as fast as possible through payoffs and backroom deals, so they can milk everyone. It's clear, all CE companies that are members of BDA will not lower prices. They are a cartel like group now that will set aside their real competition for a few years so they can bank in on the forced standard.
If Profile 1.0 players are this high, how long do you think it will take them to lower of the actual 1.0 and 2.0 players?
This is what back room deals do. They pay for ultimatums in the market so the consumer can be milked.
What did you think it will happen? Competition? LOL.
Shack @ Mar 13th 2008 11:27AM
Nfinity,
Don't be ridiculous. Do you honestly think Toshiba was planning on sustaining a business that lost almost $1B in 2007? You think if HD DVD had won the prices would not have come up at all? If you answered yes to any of these questions you are a complete moron with the logical abilities equal to that of a spoon.
I suppose in your little world, if HD DVD had won, Toshiba would have sent everyone in the world a free player. They would continue taking those losses just so we could all be happy and enjoy high def movies at home.
Wake up and welcome to the real world buddy. It's time to understand how it works here. It's time to quit bemoaning the loss of your preferred format.
I'm sick and tired of your silly posts.
Nfinity @ Mar 14th 2008 12:29PM
Shack,
Of course HD DVD players wouldn't go up. The reason they wouldn't go up is because their MSRP went down officially. BDA is doing this because they kept the MSRP prices at high but lowered sales prices. So now they lifted the prices back to MSRP.
The reason why Toshiba wouldn't have raised prices is because they had completely different business model. They would be one of the major license carriers for HD DVD royalties and having razor/blades model was always the their intent. HD DVD since the very beginning was cheap even the first model that came out was $499.
The BDA cartel is just doing what we all knew they wanted. They all agreed on the minimum price they won't go below and they are giving Sony a pass with PS3 because Sony ponied up all the cashola for the backroom deals and lost billions on PS3.
If you think that you will see $200 Profile 1.1 or Profile 2.0 player by end of 2009 you are clearly very very naive.
I don't really care anymore but the strategies of each camp were very clear from the beginning. BDA was greedy for software and hardware sales in addition to licensing, while Toshiba went with razor/blades model where they were willingly losing money on hardware to populate the market so they could recoup on royalties.
We won't even go into the fact which one of the two gave you as a consumer better value regardless of whether they lost money or not.