Samsung BD-P1400 review


Just like the BD-UP5000, this thing looks good -- in fact, it looks identical. Like other Samsung products, the remote disappoints and is almost identical -- you know, no back light, no way to program, etc. Also like other Samsung disc players, there are no discrete IR commands, so good luck with that programmable remote.

Unlike the BD-UP5000, the BD-P1400 only has 5.1 discrete analog outputs, but it should be noted that it can decode 7.1 PCM via HDMI. And like we always say -- we're happy that Samsung hasn't given up on coaxial digital outputs, as it is still useful to some and doesn't cost much to include. The rest is pretty standard for a Blu-ray player: HDMI 1.3, component, no RS-232, etc.

Setup
Also like the BD-UP5000, setup was a breeze, and just about all the options were there too, like "Screen Message" and "PCM down sampling" for example. A firmware update was released recently which enabled Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA bitstream output, but our review unit came with it pre-installed so we didn't get to see if the update via the network connection took 25 minutes like it did on the 5k. We'd like to take a second to complain for like the 100th time that the fact that you have to stop a disc to go back into setup, sucks. We know that every player is like this but still, it's super lame. Something else that we didn't like that is starting to look like a trend with Samsung products is that weren't able to get the AnyNet (aka HDMI-CEC) to work with our test TV (Pioneer). To be fair, the manual does state that it only works with Samsung products, but how lame is that?

The BD-P1400 shares the same UI and scrub bar as the BD-UP5000, and we absolutely love it. Not only is it attractive, but everything is well laid out and easily accessible. But also like the 5k, sometimes there are two scrub bars on the screen when the disc has it's own, but at least the player's bar can be disabled within setup with the "Screen Message" setting.

Another nice feature is that both component and HDMI work at the same time, but there's a catch. If you set the player to 1080p, then 1080p is sent via HDMI, but only 480i is sent via component. If you set it to 1080i, then both outputs are 1080i. This could come in handy for some, but it'd be more useful if you could set HDMI to 1080p and still get 1080i out of the component. We didn't have any problems with 24p output either -- on all the movies we tired the lips weren't out of sync and there wasn't any judder, but to be fair the two titles we have that we know cause problems are both HD DVDs.

The load times were about the same as other Blu-ray players: slow. We'd expect Samsung to make some progress with each player, but just like the original BD-P1000, the 1400 takes about a minute to turn on and load a disc -- and even makes the same buzzing noise too. At least all the the Samsung players we've reviewed eject the tray within about 20 seconds even when the player is off.
| BD-P1400 | HD-A30 | BD-P1200 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Eject tray from off. |
18 seconds |
1 minutes 5 seconds |
15 seconds |
| The time it took to load a disc. |
19 seconds (HQV) | 25 seconds (Bourne) |
52 seconds (Home of the Brave) |
| Turn on time with pre-loaded disc | 1 minute |
1 minute, 30 seconds |
1 minute |
Picture and Sound Quality
Like every other Blu-ray player we've reviewed, when it comes to video and audio quality they don't disappoint. Again, we used the HQV test Blu-ray disc and the BD-P1400 easily passed every test -- this only tests for de-interlacing and 3:2 pull down.
The BD-P1400 does have one trick up its sleeve that we haven't seen on any other player we've tested. It can internally decode multi-channel Dolby TrueHD and output it via HDMI or the discrete analog outputs. This means that even if you have an older AV receiver, you can still take advantage of every next-gen codec except DTS-HD MA,. But with Master Audio, everyone still gets the DTS core, which is pretty much what the rest of the players do anyway. Like the Panasonic DMP-BD30, if your AV receiver supports the latest codecs, you can get the encoded signal out via HDMI 1.3. So despite the fact that this player doesn't do Bonus View (read: Profile 1.1), it does have the best codec support of any Blu-ray player available today that doesn't sell for $800.
Gallery: BD-P1400
Conclusion
Pros:
A nice looking player with great build quality. 5.1 channel discrete outputs, good looking scrub bar and UI, TrueHD and DTS-HD bitstream output. Internal decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD HR.
Cons:
HDMI-CEC incompatibilities, No internal DTS-HD MA audio decoding. Profile 1.0.
Despite the fact that this is a profile 1.0 player, we love it. It has a really nice UI, the best audio support of any player under $800, and is priced right. While we wouldn't blame you for waiting for profile 2.0, if you can't or all you want is the latest audio codecs -- and don't care about PIP -- then this is the player to beat right now.
















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
shawnmos @ Feb 28th 2008 12:09PM
The BD-P1400 is definitely Samsung's best (only good?) player. It's actually probably one of the best blu-ray players out right now actually since it can internally decode all but DTS-MA, and can bitstream all. The only downside is it's profile 1.0, but if that doesn't matter to you then this is definitely the best standalone (for the money). Unlike the BD-P1200, this player hasn't been plagued with compatibility problems.
TrentD @ Feb 28th 2008 1:07PM
Didn't this player have numerous incompatibility with a bunch of discs, including 3:10 to Yuma, and other Fox and Lionsgate titles?
TrentD @ Feb 28th 2008 1:08PM
Or am I wrong, and getting this mixed up with the 1200?
Jeremy @ Feb 28th 2008 3:52PM
You are correct in the incompatibilities. It should be noticed that this review only really touched on the features of the player and barely considered real world use. While I agree this is one of the better players out there currently (have one myself) the player still has major flaws and anyone buying into bluray right now needs to be aware that, even though these are 3rd or 4th generation players, you're still on the "bleeding edge" of a still very immature technology that has major bugs to work out.
shawnmos @ Feb 28th 2008 4:39PM
You are wrong. There are no incompatibility issues with this player.
Jeremy @ Feb 28th 2008 4:45PM
Wow that's a pretty all encompassing blanket statement you're making there. I have this player running the current/latest firmware. It has problems. Just the other night, the player had problems playing the normal DVD version of Big Fish. Perhaps you should check the AVS forum thread on this player before you make such asinine comments. I like this player, I'm not trashing it, I'm just stating the absolute fact that it does have some problems even with the latest firmware.
Dayton Guy @ Feb 28th 2008 12:13PM
Thank you for this review.
DEEZNUTZ @ Feb 28th 2008 12:24PM
I'm waiting for the next Panny.
1stGreg @ Feb 28th 2008 12:34PM
The 1400 is indeed a great 1.0 player, even if after the last Xmas promo at $299 is it sometimes hard to find.
(generally in stock around $349 at Amazon).
Just wanted to add that if the lack of IR is a deal breaker for the PS3 for some people who would otherwise be tempted, there is a (though limited) solution with this:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Blu-Wave-Remote/dp/B000R5H7KE/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1204219870&sr=8-2
For $15 you get IR control, with the exception of On/Off (but you got to put the disc in there anyway right ? :) )
This being said, with the recent patches, nothing wrong (that I know of) with the BD-1400.
mattclarkie @ Feb 28th 2008 12:36PM
Is this different from the UK version as it has been out for around 6 months, and has sound issues, brilliant picture, but suffers from Sound Sync Issues.
shawnmos @ Feb 28th 2008 12:44PM
If it did have problems, they have been fixed with a firmware update.
mattclarkie @ Feb 28th 2008 12:45PM
I have nearly purchased this many times, but I think it is best to use your PS3 if you have one, and wait for a Profile 2.0. If you don't have a PS3 and if the sound issues have been patched then this is probably a good buy.
Jeffarazzi @ Feb 28th 2008 12:59PM
I have this model and just downloaded the firmware update on Sunday via the ethernet port. (the website seemed to only have the firmware update I installed a month ago). The update greatly improved the startup time (Lord of War booted up in less than 20 seconds. I had to stop the movie, eject the disc to start over to believe it). The eject and startup time is now less than half what it was before. Shockingly, it resumed playback after being paused (and going to the Samsung default screen) for 20 minutes. Before after 5-6 minutes, you would have to start the movie over again.
Stargate and Mr. & Mrs. Smith also booted up very quickly. (10-15 seconds - it was shocking compared to how slowly they booted before)
The only downside is that now Lord of War now has some freezing problems at the end and Mr. & Mrs. Smith had a few seconds where the image started to "wobble". Haven't had time to try out some of my other Blu-ray discs. Hopefully this can be fixed in the next firmware update very, very soon. (hint, hint, Samsung).
skypilot @ Feb 28th 2008 1:01PM
i love this player....my uncle got the sony bdp-s300 and he hates that thing cuz it takes like 5 minutes to turn on and load a disk...anyway i bought this player when amazon was selling for really cheap, i ended up paying about $235 for it
Dave @ Feb 28th 2008 1:07PM
Solid and fast. I like it!
WallyB @ Feb 28th 2008 1:29PM
I've been very pleased with my -1400 so far. I love being able to use the analog inputs on my 8 year-old Sony ES receiver and get Dolby TrueHD. Plus I paid less than $300 for it. Good to see I'm not alone with my impressions.
Thanks for the review, Ben.
Mike Harrison @ Feb 28th 2008 1:54PM
I bought mine back in Dec 2007 for $264 and have had no problems. The firmware updates have allowed me to see the latest movies includes 3:10 to Yuma.
djjstew @ Feb 28th 2008 2:48PM
There is a big difference between the 1400 and the 5K - the core in the 1400 is the Sigma SMP8634 C and in the 5K it is the Broadcom BCM7440 so this is a bit apples to organges. I am a 5K owner and very happy with it but we are still waiting for the FW update for 1.1 (Feb/Mar) and the Audio codecs (May). Happy to see that Sammy is working on updates =)
GhostDoggy @ Feb 29th 2008 5:56AM
I must have bought this player when it just came out. I had not realized that when the wife got it for me for Xmas (she bought it between Thanksgiving and Xmas) for $279 (Costco) the impression was it had been out for some time.
Ryan @ Mar 2nd 2008 2:43PM
I've had this player for a while and think it's feature set is solid. Some of the annoying things the player does are really software dependent - for instance it doesn't restart after a few minutes paused on every disc just certain ones - like the spectacularly annoying Pirates of the Caribbean 3. Otherwise no issues - video quality is very good on blu-ray and better sound quality than i expected for around $300. (I don't use it for SD-DVD as it's maybe a 5 or 6 out of 10 at deinterlacing/scaling.)
However, I'm not convinced about build quality and reliability as mine seems to have developed a few ticks in the time since it left the 3 month warranty period. Anyways, I'm sure I'll replace it sooner than my wife was thinking, now that the format war is over and the higher-end manufacturers like Denon are releasing BD players.
Al @ May 4th 2008 10:37PM
I just bought this player and have always been able to multi region past players but does anyone know if it is possible to multi region the p1400?