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As for whether there is a decent player to get: after this latest firmware update, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 seems like a pretty good player if you have a newer HDMI 1.3 recevier. If you have an older receiver, it might be worth it to wait for the Panasonic DMP-BD50, which will decode Dolby Tru-HD and DTS-HDMA internally; that is good for people with older receivers.]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
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However, my oppo digital upscaled movie is "good enough" until prices of Blu-ray players come down to the $100 mark. ]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Many other movies are shot in 2.35:1. This will still be letterboxed on your 16x9 TV.

This is the art of filmmaking vs. technical shortcomings of an all-for-one TV standard.

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what the HELL is a crab shoot???? that has to be one of the biggest botches of a cliche ever....

crapshoot you mean??]]>Feb 27th 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Actually, to alleviate black bars from movies would all be dependent on the directors of the films. They're the ones that decide on what aspect ratio they want to shoot their films in. That are no standards for aspect ratios. But there needs to be. See this is where it gets confusing. You can shoot a movie at the full 4K resolution standard, but you can still have a different aspect ratio which can be anything the director chooses. So eventually when TVs get to the 4K resolution, we STILL may not have films that fill up the entire screen. ]]>Mar 26th 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 5:04PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Mar 1st 2008 12:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
With that said, if you have a TV who supports 1080p, your image will look better with a 1080p output. If you have a tv with 1080i, your image will look better with a 1080i input. 1080i GENERALLY has more artifacts when it has to convert a progressive image. You have pixel crawl, screen door effect, and combing to name a few.

Long story short, yes there is a difference between the two signals. The better your processor is (the actual device doing the conversion) the less noticeable the difference is. But there is no difference in RESOLUTION.

P.S. I have a PS3 and it does a crappy job upconverting standard def DVD's compared to my older Oppo 971H. For $200, it was the best purchase I've made and it features the DCDi by Faroudja (sp?)
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In other words, the standard line is you need a big enough TV to appreciate 1080p, otherwise you won't notice the difference. As a long time PC gamer, I think higher resolutions are always better, but I couldn't say if that applies to TVs.]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
But on a side note that graph is from back in 2006. Before 24fps (on a 120Hz sony tv for example) was a big part of the discussion. I would think that the graph in your link will need to be revisited for this. 1080p24fps on the XBR4 from sony is freaking ridiculous IMO.]]>Feb 27th 2008 1:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
The advent of 24fps _content_ does not change size of the pixels or their density on a _display_, nor the ability of your eye to perceive those pixels at varying distances. Maximum viewing distance is 100% a function of resolution (and lighting/luminance); and framerate (24p vs. 60p/i) has nothing whatsoever to do with vertical and horizontal resolution.

So the charts are still good. And will be until the next evolution of the human eye. ;-)]]>Feb 27th 2008 6:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Sharp 1080p LCD
JVC 1080p LCD
Mitsu 1080p DLP
Sony 1080p SXRD
Panny 1080p Plasma
Pioneer 720p plasma (1365x768)

The 720p pioneer won hands down in a blind comparison. Resolution is not nearly as important as people think. I don't have a Blu-ray player, but HD-DVD looks incredible on my 106" 720p DLP projector. It was definitely worth the upgrade for me.
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Shitty Reply system...]]>Mar 6th 2008 6:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Mar 6th 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
I personally don't feel the need for a 1080 set at the distance I sit from the set. I would need at least a 60" I imagine to take advantage. I do agree with Pioneer's statement by one of their people a while back that a good 720 set will best the picture of current 1080 ones any day.]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
For a good understanding of what we are talking about, tune your 720p TV in to any primetime program in HD, and then quickly flip to the same show on an SD channel. See how flat and dull the colors look (aside from the blurriness) on the SD version? It is the same when comparing HD-DVD/BR to DVD (although admittedly not _quite_ as pronounced). ;-)]]>Feb 27th 2008 6:08PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Obviously the ideal setup is a 1080p/24 compatible set, but lack of such setup should not be a detracting factor from jumping into HD movies.

The main determining factor will always be how the film was mastered and the cost vs. pic quality ratio. That can be debated though seeings how the BR players still cost $350+]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:42PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:42PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
I have a Samsung 42 DLP 720p connected to a Tivo Series3 and to Samsung BR 1400. Will the BR releases of LOST episodes show more detail than the saved LOST episodes (ABC HD) in my Tivo Series3? If not, should I start saving my pennies for a 1080p monitor to take advantage of BR?]]>Feb 27th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 1:08PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 8:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 28th 2008 1:09AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 12:49PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Simple fact: everyone is or will be soon hooking up "computerized" graphical sources to their HDTVs, such as HTPCs, Windows Media Extenders, PVRs, etc. All of these sources -- which throw onto the screen small typefaces and other "computer graphics" -- render dramatically better with 1080 vertical pixels than with 720 vertical pixels. Get it?

To put it another way, does anyone in the known universe market a computer monitor today with 720 lines of vertical resolution?]]>Feb 27th 2008 1:15PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/Feb 27th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
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And it's been said already, but I'll agree, the human eye cannot make out a difference between 720 and 1080 at a normal viewing distance on a 50-inch or smaller tv. It's a bit funny that so many 32-inch 1080 TVs are coming out, you'd have to sit like 3 feet away to get the 1080, and we all know sitting too close to the screen with make you go blind.

Paul Moon makes a point about PC content, but I think the group of people doing that is still very small.

All this said, I'd still wait until the Blu Ray spec is freaking complete before buying, no need to waste money, especially if you have an HD DVD player, in which case it would be more money. ]]>Feb 27th 2008 1:24PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/27/ask-engadget-hd-does-blu-ray-show-enough-love-to-720p-hdtv-owne/
Does anyone know if Netflix charges more for renting Blu-ray movies?


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