http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/ Engadget HD Comments for Warner still releasing HD DVDs until May 31st http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
/lulz]]>Feb 20th 2008 2:48PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
I'll be picking up I am Legend on BD.]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
I guarantee you that they are only making about a 10th of HDDVD's in comparison to Bluray discs.]]>Feb 20th 2008 2:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
On the Toshiba Paramount Warner connection; it's an interesting thought, but I would wonder how Universal managed to get out. U wuld guess that Paramount is more trying to hammer down a real plan so they can give immediate release dates for the titles they already had packaged and shipped when they bailed on BD originally. Of course, I thought they'd announce before Toshiba so what do I know...]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
There's no reason to believe Toshiba would poison the well by holding these companies to a format they themselves have abandoned.]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:29PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
= LOL!]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:14PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
Reminds me of this story I read this morning from an anti-Bluray site Betanews. They are still trying to convince people that HDDVD is not obsolete.

http://www.betanews.com/article/For_13_million_HD_DVD_customers_whats_next/1203445412]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:41PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/lol ha ha ha lol...blah blah
...damn, I thought I could feel good by being a dick with my comments but it didn't work for me but you just stick with it Nfinity.
If anything, you just make me laugh and realize that there are some pretty stupid people out there!
Maybe I can sell you my trash instead of me throwing it out every week? But seriously, my trash is worth $10 a bag Nfinity and cause you're such a moron, i'll give it to you for only $15 a bag. Maybe you'll find that broken condom that gave you life and you can frame it beside your HD-DVD collection.]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
Man, you love the hate don't you? ]]>Feb 20th 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 8:06PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
There is still a long way to go before HDM becomes widely accepted. Pouring all Paramount titles on BR for release immediately will go a long way into making HDM become mainstream. Don't go thinking the Blu-ray is out of the woods yet.]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:15PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
Now isnt there a BR combo somewhere in the works? I would love that for future releases. ]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
RRoD FTW I guess?]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
It certainly can't be because of it's failure rate. Or it's multi-format support. Or it's ability to progressively become better with each firmware upgrade.]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
Let's go down the list shall we, and no I don't even own an Xbox360.

- Over priced, I got my Wii back in January 07 for $200 and I still had to wait 2 hrs in line at 8pm on a saturday because 3 months after launch date it was still extremely popular. PS3s were very much in stock on shelfs that day if I remember right, not one left the store. Hmm...
- As far as a console, the consumer has choses the Xbox and Wii as the next gen front runners. More GAMES will be developed for those consoles, wiki "supply vs. demand" and that should explain both this point and the previous.
- Sony marketed the PS3 originally as a game console that played Bluray titles, now its a Bluray player that just so happens to play games as well (come on!).

And just so you know, the PS3 will go down as the biggest disaster of Sony Computer Entertainment's history, Bluray saved it's butt a little though.

If you want me to continue, just let me know.]]>Feb 20th 2008 9:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 3:53PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/


http://www.dvdtown.com/news/amazoncom-to-support-blu-ray-as-the-digital-format-of-choice-for-customers/5265]]>Feb 20th 2008 3:56PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 4:02PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
I suppose they're trying to miminize any potential ill will, or maybe they've just already started manufacturing on these titles. Anybody know what the lead time is for that?]]>Feb 20th 2008 4:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/1. they have already put money into
2. titles that they feel are very big that they'd still want to make money off the people that are willing to still purchase HD-DVDs.

At the same time, they would like to avoid being black listed (even if only for a short period of time) by consumers who've invested a lot of money in HD-DVD.

It never hurts to be nice as long as you don't let people take advantage of it.]]>Feb 20th 2008 4:21PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 4:15PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
At least Warner is showing some class and releasing films on HD DVD until the very end and not completely dropping the ball like other companies have done in the last two weeks. I expected less after what they pulled at the January CES, but what's done is done.]]>Feb 20th 2008 4:39PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
I'm dumping my player and movies and just cutting my losses, which in the grand scheme aren't that much... Got 5 free movies at the store, bought about $120 worth of movies overall on top of that, plus $100 for the player. If I get $150 for the lot, I'll be happy, and I'll even give them the 5 free by mail when they come in.]]>Feb 20th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 8:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 5:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/By Jacqueline Emigh, BetaNews
February 20, 2008, 1:39 PM
Consumers would really have been better off right now with Toshiba's HD DVD format for high definition video than with Sony's Blu-ray approach, a principal analyst at ABI Research told BetaNews today.
Big film studios will gain from Toshiba's exit from the high definition (HD) disk market, although not as much as they'd like -- and consumers won't benefit at all, at least initially, according to analysts at market research firm ABI Research.
The format battle between Toshiba's HD DVD format and Sony's Blu-ray approach was causing major problems for 20th Century-Fox, Warner Bros., and other movie studios, noted ABI Principal Analyst Steve Wilson.
"Consumers spent [only] about $170 million on high-def DVD in 2007 and Fox, for one, is hoping that jumps to $10 billion in 2008," Wilson said, in a Q&A today with BetaNews.
Still, even industry standardization around Blu-ray won't boost sales as much as the movie studios want.
"They'll be lucky if they get to two-thirds [of the $10 billion]," the analyst remarked.
Wilson also suggested that consumers would really have been better off with the HD format than with Blu-ray.
"Storage capacity is the one area [where Blu-ray] can claim an advantage," he elaborated. But the outcome of the format war, which became official on Tuesday, "doesn't benefit anyone today and it comes at a cost. [Blu-ray] discs and players are both more expensive to manufacture. The DVD format was less expensive to implement and further along in its deployment. [Blu-ray] is twelve months behind in terms of its feature set."
To wrap a bit of historical perspective around the reactions of ABI and other observers, only a year or two ago, a lot of people would have been quite surprised by any notion that Blu-ray would prevail over HD. Back then, an independent market research group called Cymfony analyzed postings on message boards, blogs, and other Web pages to gauge the opinions of early adopters of blue-laser consoles, mainly among gamers and videophiles.
"Positive discussions about HD DVD are 46 percent higher than for Blu-ray, with over twice as many post authors being 'impressed with HD DVD' as 'impressed with Blu-ray,'" according to the results. (PDF available here) which covered the period between October 1 and November 23, 2006. Cymfony describes itself as "a market influence analytics company that sifts and interprets the millions of voices at the intersection of traditional and social media."
The Cymfony researchers further found that Sony and its Blu-ray format suffered from a "credibility gap" due to Sony's past failures with technologies such as Betamax and MiniDisc.
In addition, gamers at the time were found to have been unhappy that the PS3 console comes with a Blu-ray player. "Beyond the increased cost, they objected to Sony giving them no choice," according to the report. Ironically, based on their analysis of the Internet content studied, the Cymfony researchers posited "strong dislike for Blu-ray" as the the main reason why users have been hestitant to adopt HD drives.
"Mainstream media focus on the high cost of Blu-ray and the 'format war' as reasons consumers may be slow to embrace high definition video. But these aren't the biggest reasons currently discussed in social media," according to the study. "Post authors express a general dislike for Blu-ray, often based on doubt regarding Sony's credibility as a technology innovator and ability to succeed with a new platform."
In fairness, Blu-ray did suffer from some technical issues in 2006 that no longer exist. Most notably, studios have weaned themselves from MPEG-2 compression, which was often visibly noticeable and not nearly as efficient as H.264-based codecs such as MPEG-4. As a result, the first BD discs couldn't take full advantage of the huge space alloted for them. And the first BD discs off the block suffered from film transfer problems that early adopters initially attributed to faults with the format rather than the process.
Plus, early Blu-ray players suffered from bugs with noise cancellation and other features, resulting in disgruntled customers. But that anger became very public, thanks to the Internet, and it was that anger that may have helped taint the second wave of adopters -- those contacted by the Cymfony study.
In the end, though, it wasn't customers' likes or dislikes that powered the fatal blow in the format war, according to ABI. It was Warner Bros.' decision to switch allegiance to Blu-ray, along with subsequent moves to dump HD by major retailers such as Wal-Mart, Netflix and Blockbuster, that served as the key catalysts in the rather sudden industry migration to Blu-ray.
"Consumer spending on DVD sales and rentals was pretty flat in 2005 and 2006 at about $22 billion. It dropped last year for the first time, by about 3 percent," Wilson said today.
"The studios really need the new high-def format to catch on so they can drive revenues back
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It can't possibly have been 52+ weeks of dominanace by Blu Ray software, and including stronger player standalone sales in DEcember when the Warner anouncement was still a month away eh?

Get over it, despite the hype that Warner is what changed everything, Warner was only a consequence of the entire 2007 year domination, aka consumer chosing Blu Ray over HD DVD.
]]>Feb 20th 2008 7:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, corruption won the day for blu.]]>Feb 20th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 9:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 10:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 10:45PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/Feb 20th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/20/warner-still-releasing-hd-dvds-until-may-31st/
So hopefully with prices dropping to bargain basement prices on HD DVD, All the HD guys will have a nice healthy collection, and can get a Blu Ray player when they are finally under $100 and the disks under $20.

Then year later HD on demand will be the go and everyone will be thinking why did you need a disk in the first place?.

So do the math

50 titles @ $7 = $350 Dollars or a saving of over $1000 Wow..

Might even be worth getting a HD player aswell right now..

I just hope Warner drops their prices soon, obviously not shifting until nearer June when they stop producing. But nows a great time to get your self a nice big collection of HD films to wow everyone with on your big screen for peanuts...

And in 50 years, when Blu Ray is common as old vinyl you'll be holding some real collectors items that maybe worth as much as you paid for them.



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