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CassilineKnight @ Feb 13th 2008 12:06PM
I apologize in advance for this LONG POST. Please bear with me and read it all.
To: Truth Teller & nfinity
Wow Truth Teller & nfinity you guys are really pathetic.
I usually do NOT say this because I support personal rights, etc...but you really need to just stfu.
You're full of sh*t. Its pretty clear now to everyone that you're talking out of your ass and just saying random statements that don't really hold any weight.
I think its time for the ban. Like seriously. If you can't be realistic and see how unlikely any sort of comeback is for HD DVD at this point you truly are insane.
Wasn't you a few weeks ago that was claiming that Netflix is ALL that matters since HD DVD gets a lot of revenue (or profit don't remember which is more important to yoU) from renting there?
Now you and nfinity claim that Netflix doesn't matter? That this movie will take a long time (even though there are signs they will drop HD DVD as soon as possible given their emails to current users).
Plus since supposedly HD DVD owners are cancelling their subscriptions it'll be that much EASIER for Netflix to phase out HD DVD and move to Bluray exclusively.
Now onto Best Buy. I live in Raleigh, NC. When you walk in theres a 2 rows of Movie racks. The 1st one is for SD DVD's I believe. Its an average rack. Behind it but TWICE the lenght is the HD Movie rack. Now just a few days the BLURAY Section was BEHIND the DVD rack. As in it was hidden by the DVD section. On the other hand the HD DVD section (with all the Red galore) was out in THE OPEN and clearly visible to all.
I walked in yesterday and the situation was reversed. TO make it even more clear how Bluray is now the dominant format that Best Buy is pushing to the consumer they've taken away some shelves from the HD DVD side. Now 1/2 of that 2nd Row of Movies is full of VISIBLE Bluray Movies and 1/3 of the HIDDEN HD DVD side is NOW Bluray.
You can't argue against the numbers. You can't argue against the events that are taken place. Especially when your ONLY argument is that they were bribed. Oh by the way I'm sure you know that Dreameworks or Universal was bribed to right? So why is okay for the HD DVD camp to do that and NOT okay for Bluray?
Finally as for the price of this player...WHO CARES!? You've made the argument before that PRICE is all that matters right? Well if thats the case why isn't HD DVD winning? Why is HD DVD basically DEAD?
Seriously you need to face reality. I was a fence sitter for a long time and I was leaning towards HD DVD (mostly out of hate for sony) but its clear that the majority of consumers favor Bluray. Given the bigger space, more movies choose from, recent announcments by various groups/companies, and the arrival of Profile 2.0 Players (which hopefully is the FINAL Standard OR VERY CLOSE to it) I can say that I'm 100% comfortable with purchasing Bluray Movies right now.
Once again I say this as an average consumer from Raleigh, NC. Toshiba has no one to blame but itself. They hardly did any type of advertising to promote HD DVD. And they never really took the whole notion that they were at "war" with Bluray seriously enough IMO.
And look what it got them...HD DVD is DEAD. PERIOD. Honestly its time to move on folks.
John B @ Feb 13th 2008 12:15PM
WTF?!
Student Driver @ Feb 13th 2008 12:19PM
@John B
Ditto.
Mr. E @ Feb 13th 2008 12:24PM
Oops, I think this was a dupe of a post from the Panasonic DMP-BD50 thread.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/12/panasonics-dmp-bd50-gets-specd-released-in-europe/
I wonder if this was a mistake or some of the troll posts got deleted?
Jake @ Feb 13th 2008 12:30PM
Wow. CassilineKnight goes on the "psycho: ignore" list.
You do realize that neither TT nor Nfinity has posted to this thread, don't you Mr. "Personal Rights"? It's one thing to actively disagree with a person; it's another to launch an unprovoked, crazy-homeless-man diatribe for no apparent reason.
But sure, apologize because it's long...
Nfinity @ Feb 13th 2008 12:49PM
There you go.. how can you argue with that right there.. shows you the mental state of most Blu-Ray supporters..
Hey dudes.. go buy a crappy Blu-Ray player for $400 with unfinished features.. It's your right..go and buy movies at $30 you'll probably double and triple dip because of features and other garbage.
Anyone can recommend this format on account of movies.. if it's on your concious that you know you are supporting something that your friend or family will have to rebuy, please, nobody is stopping you.
The ONLY problem I have with this whole thing is the notion that in a world with Xbox 360/PS3/Wii and PSP/UMD vs Nintendo DS, iPod vs Creative Zen (where the content is separated AGAIN because of technology differences), iTunes vs Amazon Unbox, DVDs in FullSCreen, Widescreen and 5 other versions of the same movie, where retailers and everyone else stocking everything everywhere, now suddenly HD DVD is the anti-christ and we need only Blu-Ray. It's completely ridiculous.
I mean you either REALLY have to be brainwashed to not see the reason or I really don't know what the problem is with some people.
All we ever said was, hey, you go ahead and buy Blu-Ray and we'll be buying HD DVD. Eventually both formats would be supported just like Xbox 360 or PS3 or Wii games or numerours other examples. I mean how much time do you need a gaming studio needs to spend to port a game from Xbox 360 to a dead last PS3 console and how much money it takes when they KNOW they'll sell 4 times less copies of the game.
No, it's obvious that THE ONLY reason, HD DVD must DIE is because it's superior technology that would fly past through Blu-Ray if given fair market.
As I said, this thing is ripe for anti-trust.
Oh and btw, for the patient that left that message above, you do really need to take some meds and understand that I just switched ironically to Blockbuster that offers MORE HD DVD movies then Netflix for actually $3-$4 more.
Truth Teller @ Feb 13th 2008 12:50PM
It's just another one of the nut-jobs here incapable of tolerating nevermind understanding anyone who doesn't 'love' what s/he 'loves' (applies mainly to game consoles).
Raving console kiddies, pretty funny I guess, in a tragically sad way.
qo_op @ Feb 13th 2008 1:19PM
And despite your long winded post...........HDDVD has still lost the war. Nobody made this a big deal except HDDVD, they are the ones to blame with their exclusivity pay offs and what not, making this war longer than it has to be. They deserve whatever negative press and lack of sales that they receive.
EatingPie @ Feb 13th 2008 3:12PM
Nfinity, I can understand supporting HD-DVD over Blu-Ray, but to call it the superior technology, there's just no way to factually back that up. Blu-Ray has higher capacity, higher bandwidth, and uses Java which is more flexible (though certainly harder to use). Blu-Ray was also designed as burnable from the outset, and has a variety of burners, which do 50GB dual layer, and are now up to 6x burn speed (this is opposed to HD-DVD's one single-layer 15GB burner, only available with a Toshiba Laptop purchase).
Blu-Ray is the better technology. That's never really been a contention in the format war, and even if it were, it's an untenable position. What HD-DVD has argued is whether or not those technological superiorities are *necessary* for good HD content playback.
That said, yes indeed it IS safe to buy a Blu-Ray player now. I still recommend the PS3, but the new Panasonic should be a hit.
-Pie
-Pie
riggs @ Feb 13th 2008 3:25PM
even though he sounded like an idiot posting that before you guys even did, now that you have, i agree with him...SHUT THE FUCK UP. cant believe yall are putting people down for supporting a different type of dvd. fucking lames.
namtastic @ Feb 20th 2008 1:09PM
@Nfinity,
"The ONLY problem I have with this whole thing is the notion that in a world with Xbox 360/PS3/Wii and PSP/UMD vs Nintendo DS, iPod vs Creative Zen (where the content is separated AGAIN because of technology differences), iTunes vs Amazon Unbox, DVDs in FullSCreen, Widescreen and 5 other versions of the same movie, where retailers and everyone else stocking everything everywhere, now suddenly HD DVD is the anti-christ and we need only Blu-Ray. It's completely ridiculous."
You're comparing product to platform. 5 versions of a DVD doesn't matter when they're all DVDs. 5 different format discs of the same movie IS a huge problem, when you have to manufacture, ship, shelve, and return product.
And at worst, you're comparing virtual product to manufactured product, where all of those issues don't exist. You can have 200 video formats -- and we *do* -- and you can still have one device play them all if you wanted.
And that's the thing. Unbox vs. iTunes *is* bad -- it should be plain MPEG4, in the same way that music has moved to plain MP3. And console wars *are* stupid, because the Wii is just a console with a special controller packed in.