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Nice :)]]>Jan 22nd 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 7:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 6:51PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 8:04PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
To add on to what I was saying I went to both places and asked them for their best price ABT quoted $2900 and Grants $2750 the MSRP was $3299.
I asked ABT if they would beat it and they said no they wouldn't even match it. So they might not be a major player but they beat just about anyplace on price.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 8:07PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 5:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 6:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 9:00PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
BEEP BEEP BEDEEP DEEP BEEP DEDEEP!!! ]]>Jan 22nd 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
Just goes to show, no matter how you spin it, you can make it sound good.
Engadget, can we please drop this Pro-Blu infested BS and stop posting news that will not swing the format war in either way.

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Of course, that's double the crappy titles of HD DVD's crappy titles...and they don't really promote either in the stores...and you won't see either move really at all...but hey, Blu's WINNING, right?

Lamers. Wait until the American economy stabilizes a little, and the other major markets to similarly stabilize, then people will be more interested in things like high-def TV and less interested in things like whether or not they'll have a job and food to eat in a month. Then we'll talk format war again, probably around the time of next Christmas, and by then companies will have come up with low-chipcount machines on the cheap, and more than likely your precious Blu will win unless the HD DVD camp pulls a major (and I mean MAJOR one) out their collective butts. And all of us who want good-quality HD content on instant demand will be happy, just knowing that it'll finally take off.

Just chill out and wait, guys. It's still too early for anyone to declare victory or concede defeat...at this point, it can be winning the battle yet losing the war.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 11:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/yeah, i think they are tasked with at least one format war post a day to keep up the hits. it's starting to get obvious on slow news days.
at the same time, is there ANY pro hd-dvd news to report though? people rag on there being a pro-blu feeling instead of a more objective swing, but something like this is not entirely suprising or eventful. how are they biased when it seems like the vast public perception is that it's not a matter of 'if' anymore, but 'when' hd-dvd will finnaly roll over and die.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 9:12AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 7:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
You do know they are owned by Time Warner, right?]]>Jan 22nd 2008 10:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 11:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
So, knock it off with this BS that the consumers have chosen with respect to this format war. That's a complete and utter crock of sh*t.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 6:20AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
your statement is true JB, exclusivity did play a big unfair part. content is king. there have been many a time i would stand at my local brick and mortor drooling at heros, or transformers and wishing i could have them on my ps3 HD media device, but it's not like sony put a gun to my head and made me buy a ps3, or prevented me from buying an HD-dvd, or combo player. i have the money. it was that i, like many other consumers, saw something inhearent to buying a reliable, 1080P24/30/60 hz, 7.1 uncompressed, media streaming, internet surfing, wireless, picture viewing, music storing, BD playing, hdmi 1.3, open, upgradeable, highly supported, high end device that for my money made made more sence at $600 (early 07) than anything else anyone in the competition had to offer or does (imo) to this very day. oh yeah, and it plays my favroite video games.
people talk about price a lot. yes that is very important, but what is also unsaid for is value. the consumer as a whole saw more value in buying a ps3 or BD player (even at it's higher price) for HDM and as a whole it consistantly outsold hd-dvd. if your definition of choice is all things being equal, than no, the choice was not clearly and evenly given on both sides. but even though the choice was not even, the consumer did make a coice, and i think we picked value over low price.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 9:51AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
But you can't tell me that most people necessarily felt the "value" of buying BD. For you, yes, particularly if the PS3 is to be a gaming system as well as a BD player. However, it's VERY evident from a lot of posts on EngadgetHD that elitst snobbery came into play as well -- the whole feeling that buying a more expensive unit make you somehow better. That has nothing to do with value but rather with elitism.

Now, part of this whole thing is also HD DVD's fault. Whereas I got sick and tired of *constantly* seeing BD commercials on high-def TV channels, I saw nothing from the HD DVD group. Advertising? What advertising?

If you get value out of your PS3, great! That's fine. I have said multiple times that my HD-A2 is a great value, and I'm not going to be like those who can't see long-term that getting rid of their HD DVD hardware is pretty much a foolish move. Determining the "value" of an item also is only valid if you have all of the information to make an informed choice. I don't think the majority of people who bought into either format were given that. (Obviously, I'm not counting us. We're at EngadgetHD *because* we're more informed than most.)

Regardless, this war was not played on the level playing field that Warner and BD supports continually and inaccurately claim that it was. The consumers in general didn't choose anything. I take that back. They chose to stick with regular DVD.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 7:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
Remember Beta was a superior format too]]>Jan 22nd 2008 7:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
Hey Eddie... why don't you give it a rest, man?? You're embarassing yourself and I I honestly am not trying to be mean when I say that. I read on another topic that you actually believe Paramount and Universal are going to stay Red...? Are you serious?? You should disappear from these forums or admit defeat now before you look even worse.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 7:49PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
Well since that's the case I'll just continue to enjoy my collection. You won't believe how good Band of Brothers looks on HD DVD. Oh that's right, the blu-ray release date for that is still pending.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 10:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
and WTF is that burning smell in my oven..???!!!!!

shit]]>Jan 22nd 2008 11:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/]]>Jan 23rd 2008 6:39AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 9:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/"Engadget, can we please drop this Pro-Blu infested BS and stop posting news that will not swing the format war in either way."

Engadget has useful tidbits (every now and then), but the one-sided posts about blu has become disgusting. Any technical review (eg: Sound & Vision) of both products, given you can actually have an unbiased opinion, has been slightly in the favor HD. Quantitative research/analysis is more than personal opinion...and no, I don't own HD Dvd. Does anyonw care about quality anymore and delivering facts, or is it about who has the most money and advertising? You've already answered Engadget.
]]>Jan 22nd 2008 9:51PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/The death of HD DVD will mean the overpriced BR product range is doomed to be niche market, and this one eyed site is doing everything it can to speed the process up, congratulations, your helping destroy HD media for us all.]]>Jan 22nd 2008 10:27PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
BD is spread over the studios and hardware companies while hd dvd is solely toshiba format. Be a slave for them. I will have choice!!!

Fool!]]>Jan 23rd 2008 6:33AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 22nd 2008 10:40PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/
Trust me, unlike buying Blu right this moment (though that's likely to change, given that HD DVD is being shoved out of existence) you're so not getting screwed. If you want slightly better and/or want out-of-region DVDs or other formats, spend $50+ more on an Oppo. It's your choice, really; I usually just convert everything to MPEG2, myself, so features like Divx playback aren't that big a draw to me.

(I will add the disclaimer that I have no idea how well-built these units are--mine's a 3rd-gen player, yet since it still needs active cooling, I'm a little dubious about that, though I've had computers chug along for close to a decade without cooling issues...ymmv, in other words)]]>Jan 22nd 2008 11:50PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 23rd 2008 6:34AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 23rd 2008 12:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/grants-appliances-reportedly-ditching-hd-dvd-wares/Jan 23rd 2008 10:23AM