When I can buy a Blu-ray player *with the same features as HD DVD* (i.e. Profile 2.0) for the same $150 I can buy an HD DVD player for, then, and only then, should Toshiba throw in the towel. Until that day, the tide could turn at any moment. All it takes is one studio to switch the other way and suddenly HD DVD is winning.
Under what scenario could HDDVD comeback? Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks releasing every catalog title before May? And monkeys might fly out out of my butt, shaaa, as if...
Yea, that makes perfectly GREAT financial sense to switch back to HD Dvd while blu has a 70:30 market share in studio support all because Toshiba is selling a $500 player for $199. Yea, Toshiba is making ALOT of money slashing all their hardware 50%!! LOL
It cracks me up your guys that use this argument that their hardware is cheaper!! They had to mark it down to $99 because nobody would buy it otherwise and you act like Toshiba is doing consumers a favor?
Once a format is adopted, yes even Blu-Ray, the hardware prices will go down. In fact, they will probably drop even faster that way due to volume sales. The number one thing that drives electronic prices down is volume.
I agree wont be buying Blu-ray until there is a 2.0 profile internet port and the price is down to $200 range. also the media needs to come down in price. I know that amazon you can get good deals but I was in Target two days ago and every single blu-ray disk there was $29.99 except for one.
and to be honest with my DVR and HBO/Showtime and Stars even though there in 1080i and not 1080p there great pictures. and with an external drive added to my DVR i can store dozens of movies
HD-DVD and Warner tried to change the tied by getting Fox. They actually almost had Fox, but they backed out at the last minute. Getting a Blu-ray exclusive studio like Fox was part of the deal for Warner to make the switch, but it didn't happen.
I hate to see it happen this way, but it is over. HD-DVD doesn't have the power now to get a studio and it doesn't help with all these other, mostly minor, studios following suite.
I'm sorry but that's just dumb. BluRay has about 10m players in homes compared to less than 1m HD-DVD ones. How is 1 studio switching going to suddenly change that? All it would do is make it a stalemate again.
It looks like there is a clear winner now and that's what the situation needs. BluRay disks were outselling HD-DVD by 2:1 but last week they outsold them by 5:1 because BluRay is picking up momentum and HD-DVD is losing it. Why on earth would anyone (except Toshiba) want to prolong this any further? You might think that HD-DVD is the better format, I dont. I think the larger capacity of Bluray is important (a single layer 15gb HD-DVD isnt exactly a big leap from a DVD9 is it?) and BluRay are also streets ahead in PC burning drives (you cant buy a HD-DVD one).
I couldn't care less about picture in picture or the other crap HD-DVD fans rant on about, I understand that the new BluRay features have that stuff and more but I'm not interested in it. I want a HD picture and a high capacity disk to burn to and BluRay fits that perfectly.
We'll see what happens this fall. Of course, our unwillingness to part with our money right now will be seen as further proof of stupidity to the fanboys...just wait, guys, we'll be happy to buy into it when the price is right.
Seriously, I can wait. I've not even had a DVD player for five years.
"Under what scenario could HDDVD comeback? Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks releasing every catalog title before May? And monkeys might fly out out of my butt, shaaa, as if..."
It's not a matter of "coming back" as in getting Disney to switch to HD DVD (never going to happen). It's a matter of staying around as a viable format on which HD content is released. The future may very well be combo players, and I actually prefer a world in which at least some of my High-Def media can be easily ripped (and/or played in a Linux player).
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dman @ Jan 17th 2008 9:58AM
When I can buy a Blu-ray player *with the same features as HD DVD* (i.e. Profile 2.0) for the same $150 I can buy an HD DVD player for, then, and only then, should Toshiba throw in the towel. Until that day, the tide could turn at any moment. All it takes is one studio to switch the other way and suddenly HD DVD is winning.
JimC @ Jan 17th 2008 10:25AM
Under what scenario could HDDVD comeback? Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks releasing every catalog title before May? And monkeys might fly out out of my butt, shaaa, as if...
greekjgg @ Jan 17th 2008 10:26AM
Yea, that makes perfectly GREAT financial sense to switch back to HD Dvd while blu has a 70:30 market share in studio support all because Toshiba is selling a $500 player for $199. Yea, Toshiba is making ALOT of money slashing all their hardware 50%!! LOL
It cracks me up your guys that use this argument that their hardware is cheaper!! They had to mark it down to $99 because nobody would buy it otherwise and you act like Toshiba is doing consumers a favor?
Augustus @ Jan 17th 2008 10:32AM
Once a format is adopted, yes even Blu-Ray, the hardware prices will go down. In fact, they will probably drop even faster that way due to volume sales. The number one thing that drives electronic prices down is volume.
Tony @ Jan 17th 2008 11:05AM
I agree wont be buying Blu-ray until there is a 2.0 profile internet port and the price is down to $200 range. also the media needs to come down in price. I know that amazon you can get good deals but I was in Target two days ago and every single blu-ray disk there was $29.99 except for one.
and to be honest with my DVR and HBO/Showtime and Stars even though there in 1080i and not 1080p there great pictures. and with an external drive added to my DVR i can store dozens of movies
zargon @ Jan 17th 2008 10:49AM
HD-DVD and Warner tried to change the tied by getting Fox. They actually almost had Fox, but they backed out at the last minute. Getting a Blu-ray exclusive studio like Fox was part of the deal for Warner to make the switch, but it didn't happen.
I hate to see it happen this way, but it is over. HD-DVD doesn't have the power now to get a studio and it doesn't help with all these other, mostly minor, studios following suite.
jhfjjjfjg @ Jan 17th 2008 11:00AM
I'm sorry but that's just dumb. BluRay has about 10m players in homes compared to less than 1m HD-DVD ones. How is 1 studio switching going to suddenly change that? All it would do is make it a stalemate again.
It looks like there is a clear winner now and that's what the situation needs. BluRay disks were outselling HD-DVD by 2:1 but last week they outsold them by 5:1 because BluRay is picking up momentum and HD-DVD is losing it. Why on earth would anyone (except Toshiba) want to prolong this any further? You might think that HD-DVD is the better format, I dont. I think the larger capacity of Bluray is important (a single layer 15gb HD-DVD isnt exactly a big leap from a DVD9 is it?) and BluRay are also streets ahead in PC burning drives (you cant buy a HD-DVD one).
I couldn't care less about picture in picture or the other crap HD-DVD fans rant on about, I understand that the new BluRay features have that stuff and more but I'm not interested in it. I want a HD picture and a high capacity disk to burn to and BluRay fits that perfectly.
regeya @ Jan 17th 2008 12:02PM
We'll see what happens this fall. Of course, our unwillingness to part with our money right now will be seen as further proof of stupidity to the fanboys...just wait, guys, we'll be happy to buy into it when the price is right.
Seriously, I can wait. I've not even had a DVD player for five years.
burndive @ Jan 17th 2008 12:29PM
"Under what scenario could HDDVD comeback? Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks releasing every catalog title before May? And monkeys might fly out out of my butt, shaaa, as if..."
It's not a matter of "coming back" as in getting Disney to switch to HD DVD (never going to happen). It's a matter of staying around as a viable format on which HD content is released. The future may very well be combo players, and I actually prefer a world in which at least some of my High-Def media can be easily ripped (and/or played in a Linux player).