Universal: 'current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format.' Currently.

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Donginator @ Jan 10th 2008 7:01PM

FIRST POST MUAHAHAH

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Donginator @ Jan 10th 2008 7:02PM

SORRY for all those retarded post, it kept on showing the cannot display page so I figure it didn't go through. I am deeply sorry.

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Hans Martin @ Jan 10th 2008 7:02PM

Another statement basically saying "our strategy to go Blu-Ray does not involve getting caught up in law-suits with Toshiba", like Paramount's statement.

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John B @ Jan 10th 2008 7:03PM

Idiot. Go back to Slashdot for that sort of thing.

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Kimbo Slice @ Jan 10th 2008 7:03PM

How long before a Blu Boi changes the words around to make it look as if Universal just went Blu exclusive?

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Hans Martin @ Jan 10th 2008 7:09PM

I guess that would be me :-)

But it doesn't take a lot of twisting. the unraveling of HD DVD happened a lot quicker that i had anticipated. For any red-bois to seriously think Universal and paramount feel comfortable sitting left supporting a format no-one else does, requires some really hefty talent for self deception...

The writing on the wall is now in blinking neons...

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MidnightDT @ Jan 10th 2008 7:24PM

Go Universal!

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MidnightDT @ Jan 10th 2008 7:28PM

"A Universal spokesperson told us this afternoon that the studio plans to issue new upcoming HD DVD title announcements in the near future" - HighDef Digest

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HDpurist @ Jan 15th 2008 12:45AM

"...studio plans to issue new upcoming HD DVD title ..."

This means that it is not certain, or there is a possibility or chance that new HD-DVDs release may come.

I wouldn't bet on it. This is damage control at it's finest.

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 7:31PM

From a business point of view, if I was Paramount or Universal i would be staying Red. I would be getting together, joining forces and signing a 12 month HD DVD contract.Whatever they are worth today they will be worth a hell of a lot more in another 12 months and what are they missing out on in the mean time, a tiny market place that is being effected by DVD not HD DVD.
All the tossers who keep saying the HD market is so small because of HD confusion are dreaming, without question the biggest problem HD has is DVD.
If these companies remain united they can hold a very large whip and make a HELL of a lot more money in the next 12 months then they would making BR discs.
That sentiment may be a little anti consumer, but lets face it, this whole war has been, the biggest anti consumer cartel in the history of electronics has just won the HD war.

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alonzo @ Jan 11th 2008 8:34AM

I work for a large electronics store and what I've seen this week is major movement towards Blu Ray and alot of returns of HD DVD players. I'd say the vast majority of folks are exchanging their HD DVD players for PS3's. PS3's are selling really well and customers a buying plenty of movies to go along with those. The Panasonic BR is also doing well.

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severian00 @ Jan 10th 2008 8:38PM

I would agree with you in that Universal could extort a lot of money out of Toshiba to sign another deal, but you are wrong in regards to why people are not switching to HDM. I see it every day where we'll sell someone a new HDTV and they ask about movies. You then explain the format war to them and they buy an upconverting DVD player. I've been a long time proponent of HD-DVD up until this week. And I actually spoke with my wallet, unlike a lot of people, by buying about 20 HD-DVD's in the past year. I went purple on Tuesday and returned any unopened HD-DVD movies to Amazon. The war is over, the only question is how much longer HD-DVD will fight. To me, the customer will benefit the sooner Toshiba gives up. Then Blu can target DVD and start reducing prices.

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Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 11th 2008 2:04AM

That just doesn't seem to make any sense. How could they possibly make more money by staying with a lame duck format? Growth of the HD DVD format is now stunted. I know people who are returning unopened HD DVDs and trying to sell off their players. And you can claim that switching wouldn't help grow the market but that's just plain wrong. For one, there are a lot of people formerly in the HD DVD camp that are now switching to Blu-ray. Why? Because they're fans of HD and now HD DVD is dead in the water. So they're biting the bullet and making the switch. So MAYBE the overall HD install base won't take a big leap forward, but the Blu-ray camp will likely swell with HD DVD people converting over. Universaland Parmount will miss out on selling to all the people. And as the guy previous to me pointed out, there ARE indeed quite a few people (more than you apparently think) sittiong on the sidelines waiting for the war to end. Your view just doesn't make one bit of sense.

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Larry @ Jan 11th 2008 4:48AM

Believe it or not, some studios don't want to hand over production of their HD output to a company the owns rival studios! Sony's own studios will always get priority, while others will have to pay more and waiting longer for their discs.

"Oh sorry Universal, you can't have your Bourne discs in time for Christmas, we're too busy making Spider Man 3... and sorry, you can't have double layer either, we ran out"

Doesn't the USA have any competition laws? It would never be allowed in Europe.

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Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 11th 2008 10:58AM

@Larry

LOL... what? Are you just making shit up? Do you have proof that any studio has had to wait for Sony movies to finish production?

Also, I love how my previous comment has been voted down despite being a perfectly valid response to a comment that made no sense at all. You HD DVD fanboys are just sad.

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Elad @ Jan 10th 2008 8:04PM

This has become stupid. The HD market as a whole is the only thing that this will affect. Blu Ray has enough studio support that red can't make a come back. That chapter is over. The next part is about dragging this thing on out of fucking spite. Why would Universal back a technology so adamantly that anyone with any business sense knows that it really has no hope of ever taking the market back. (and all these purple theories are retarted - studios do not want to have two formats to produce for. It's overly expensive and confusing to the customer) And the only reason that DVD sales are killing HDM sales is because of this war. The sooner that it ends, the sooner the confusion will stop and people won't be so wary of investing money into the new technology. Continuing to back HD DVD right now would really just end up costing everybody in the red camp more money because this war is costing everyone money. Right now all movie sales are down. People don't want to buy blu rays because they might be obsolete, people don't want to buy HD DVDs because they may be obsolete, people don't want to buy DVDs because if they're going to buy a new movie, they want to buy it in HD so they'll wait for the war to end to continue expanding their collection. That's whats happening to me. I would be extremely surprised if this bullshit statement from Universal actually holds true in the near future. They can't be stupid enough to sacrifice their profits trying to keep a dead technology on life support. It's a vegetable, pull the fucking the plug.

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 8:22PM

@Elad
Maybe they don't want to be stood over by power crazed corporation hell bent on market domination and a market monopoly policy that has blown up in their faces time and time again, a corporation that has a massive anti consumer history, and maybe they don't believe that BR can go the distance as well against DVD because of the BDAs anti consumer greed.
All this drama from a format that, had the consumer been allowed to decide the outcome,would have long since died.
The wars might be over, but fuck blu ray and it's anti consumer ways.

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Jeff @ Jan 10th 2008 8:59PM

@ Gus, amen brother, amen

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Kattleox @ Jan 10th 2008 9:05PM

@Gus
Perhaps you are right about monopolies and whatnot, but you cant say that the DVD Forum isn't in this for the money. It's not for customer satisfaction, and it's not for self gratification. They want fatter pocketbooks, or else Micro$oft wouldn't be red. Universal and Paramount are looking to quit taking losses and they will pocket any cash they can to prevent that. To support BD is to take a loss, but Sony promises that its only initial. (And Microsoft CERTAINLY hasn't been accused of monopolizing or being power crazed)
Also, the consumer is about as important to sony as it is to any company; possibly more so since they don't lie to their face and talk about care. MS doesn't love me. Neither does Universal or Paramount. However, when I plug my Walkman into my PS3 and the little "W" logo pops up and everything syncs across directly, it almost seems as if they thought about me for a second. Whey I watch Casino Royale and see how great it looks in 1080, It seems as if they put time into it. It doesn't matter if they actually DO care, but anti consumerism is only anticonsumerism if you arent directly influenced by them. Only Marxists like communism and only westerners like republics, because the opposite is bad. Just is. Dunno why. I've never had any problems with Sony and, by the way so many people are switching camps all of a sudden, I would geuss that they really haven't either.
Just sayin':Try Bluray. I like HDDVD and the two are identical visually, but with things like Bluray Live and the BD --> Device copying coming, I, the consumer, will side with anti consumerists any day.

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Izzy @ Jan 10th 2008 9:22PM

Isn't Toshiba even greeedier being the ONLY big HD-DVD hardware supporter (You can't really count Intel of M$, it's not their business)?

BRD has MULTIPLE manufacturers that are competing with each other.

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Larry @ Jan 11th 2008 2:10PM

Errr... Don't Venturer, Samsung, and LG make HD-DVD players?

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hemmy @ Jan 10th 2008 8:35PM

Universal's contract, like Warner's, runs through May. It's safe to say their honoring them until then.

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turner @ Jan 10th 2008 8:46PM

that contract has run out, read the article before you post.

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Killer @ Jan 10th 2008 8:47PM

Actually Elad, people don't buy HD DVD's or Blu-ray because there is nothing to choose from!

400 or so titles for Blu-ray and 380 or so for HD DVD?

Wow...thats alot compared to the DVD market. ^:^ Maybe if the studios would pump out the movies, then people will buy either format, but for most people that don't have the money for the players and aren't complete "spend happy" movie people, (You know people that only buy a select amount of movies, because they are truely great movies), those people. They don't see the point in paying 400 dollars or more for something that has less then a 1/8 of what the DVD market offers. Maybe they should be offering content to make people switch. The only reason I bought both was that I have the cash. I don't buy very much movies. I bought about 4 HD DVDs and 4 Blu-ray movies, that's it. There is nothing out there that makes me want to buy them, I liked the matrix, but it wasn't something I want to buy. This has nothing to do with confusion. It has everything to do with the normal consumer seeing that there is no point in spending the cash on something like Blu-ray or HD DVD. That's why this market is so slow and will be for several more years.

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Truth Teller @ Jan 10th 2008 9:22PM

Blu-ray will never take the place of DVD. Not now.

They have missed the chance and now the market is no longer anything close to being like it once was.

'People' are doing what is most obvious & convenient.
First and foremost buying HD TV services including HD movies.
HD TV all the time beats an occasional optical disc any day of the week.

Secondly 'people' are watching their (often large) existing SD DVD collections upscaled.

Only the deranged fanboy element imagine 'people' replacing their DVD collections wholescale or choosing a limited sub-spec Blu-ray player over an HD TV service with DVR.

The more obsessive can quibble about quality all they like but when people say they cannot see a worth-while difference
(ie one worth paying significant amounts of money for)
between upscaled DVD and high def disc then you can forget about many seeing a worth-while difference
(worth paying significant amounts of money for)
between an HD TV service with DVR and optical discs and all that entails.

Especially as most will never go beyond the 32" - 40" size
(and so would be totally telling the truth with such comment).

HD DVD (if it comes back from all this) is the only one that could replace DVD and stand as a viable compliament to HD TV services as it can get cheap enough quick enough.

Thanks to the sheer greed underlying Blu-ray it doesn't stand a chance of doing this anything like fast enough.

Blu-ray will be stuck in the game console niche - after the comments of the BDA who is going to buy a non-profile 2.0 Blu-ray player?
The only (possibly) safe choice is the PS3 but who wants a limited & over-priced game console?
You can bet the rest of the BDA are thrilled.

HD DVD (with the - still - coming Chinese inexpensive upscaling DVD players that also play HD DVD very nicely) may well end 2008 in a far better off position than Blu-ray.

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Elad @ Jan 10th 2008 10:40PM

you're a fucking idiot as I've already stated before. All the HD DVD people now seem to think HDM is not the future. It's cause you're bitter for spending money on a dead technology. Get over it, and while you're at it, go pick up a Blu Ray player. It's time to adopt as the war is actually finally over. You'll see Universal switch to dual support. You notice how they never say that they won't not support blu ray. Just we'll continue to support HD DVD. Good for them. They'll support both. They never lied. Just watch. HD DVD will die slowly over the next couple months.

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DrXym @ Jan 11th 2008 5:02AM

You really are a moron. For months you've been crowing about HD DVD, how its oh so wonderful etc. Now that it's on the brinking of dying, you proclaim that HD will never take off for some quite nonsensical reasons. Blu Ray players aren't expensive and they're getting cheaper all the time. I'd point out that ten million people already have a blu ray player and the figure will probably be treble next year and quintuple that the year after. It will be no surprise if we see a sub $200 BD player this year, and probably sub $150 next year.

Your reaction to losing is quite pathetic really, and thankfully it does not appear representative. Most HD DVD supporters have been a lot more rational about the situation than you have. Ah well, you can pretend that upscale players are going to take over if you like. I expect however that BD will experience the same sort of growth as DVD vs VHS. It may even be that the costs of producing hybrid disks come down to the point that it becomes a viable middleground.

As a fairly early adopter of DVD (my 1st player cost �600 - POUNDS), I recognize it can take 2 or 3 years before the content and prices are there to support a new format. Blu Ray is into its second year and is already way cheaper than DVD players in price. And that's without having the likes of Toshiba massively subsidizing players to try and score an early victory. Your bleating about price is quite bizarre really.

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EJNelly @ Jan 10th 2008 9:23PM

Where I work, in the weeks leading up to Christmas we sold more up converting players than HDM players at a rate of about 4.5 to 1. Of all the people I've spoken with, the number one reason for not purchasing an HDM player was cost. They figure if they can purchase an up converting player for $50, why pay 4-5 times the cost plus an extra $5-10 a disc?

I rarely here anyone mention dual formats. I'll be a little surprised if Warner's decision noticeably speeds up HDM adoption. I think it'll more on pricing in the next year.

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Curtis2008 @ Jan 10th 2008 9:33PM

If Universal's support of HD-DVD was so strong, then they resigned their exclusivity contract. I doubt they will.
I would have bought Bourne Universal on Blu-Ray but instead I only bought on DVD. So they must out on $13 extra bucks from me. I knew they aren't sweating over missing $13 bucks from one consumer, but it does add it up. I mean I would may chosen to replace my Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy DVD's with Blu-Ray discs. And I certainly haven't bought any other movie from Universal latey (except Miami Vice).

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DEEZNUTZ @ Jan 10th 2008 9:37PM

OK folks, listen up. There's a very simple explanation why you will see no announcement from UNI & PARAMOUNT for at least a month or two. They certainly have an inventory of movies in their pipeline they prefer to actually sell than gather dust in a warehouse. Its a simple case of minimizing their losses from investing in the losing format. Its a question of when.

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zargon @ Jan 10th 2008 11:09PM

Yet more crazy zealot FUD spreading with nothing to back it up or anything worth while to add.

Ladies and gents, your typical blind Blu-ray sheep...

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DEEZNUTZ @ Jan 10th 2008 11:44PM

How does it feel to be a loser Zargon? Your a tool for a dead format. Go suck on a blu popsicle and STFU. Your starting to become my groupie and I'm flattered that I get you riled up so damn easily! My biggest fan.

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DrXym @ Jan 11th 2008 5:05AM

Zargon, it's quite simple to understand. If you have a warehouse full of HD DVD movies, and perhaps even in production you might consider timing your announcement, especially if you're still under contract.

One thing is absolutely certain. These statements by Universal and Paramount are so limp that it is easy to read between the lines. If these studios were strongly behind HD DVD they would have come out and emphatically said it. If they were going to be exclusive to HD DVD for the forseeable future they would have said it. Their statements were as close to an admission that they were consider switching as they could probably go without risking disparaging HD DVD which might have legal implications for their current obligations.

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DEEZNUTZ @ Jan 10th 2008 9:49PM

Someone get a straightjacket for this guy...

Again with those fictitious Chinese upscaling players? You need to either provide verifiable proof since you keep mentioning it in every one of your ignorant fanboy desperation posts, or just STFU about it already... you're wasting valuable screen space with your PR statements for Toshiba.

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DEEZNUTZ @ Jan 10th 2008 9:59PM

I was replying to "TRUTH TELLER"

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 9:55PM

@Kattleox
There is one major problem with what you say, and i quote "but SONY PROMISES".....There in lies the problem, if sony's lips are moving, it's a lie.

And you might be happy bending over and taking one up the Khyber Pass from the BDA, I for one am not.I will buy another upscaling 1080p Panasonic DVD recorder with hard drive AND about $200 in change before I buy an unfinished beta profile DVD player.
I will never buy blu ray until it is a finished spec and less than $200, and by the time that has come around BR will be a thing of the past as well so there is no chance of me going blu.
As i said, fuck blu ray and everything it stands for.
THE FUTURE IS INDEED BLUE, the best chance HD media had has just been screwed by the biggest anti consumer cartel of the modern era!

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EJNelly @ Jan 10th 2008 10:17PM

I pretty much agree with your first post, but for the most part disagree with this one.

Only reason I even replied was I was so excited to see blue spelled with an e.

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Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 11th 2008 2:11AM

LOL... whatever. After reading more of your posts it's clear you're just a bitter HD DVD fanboy. Quit spread FUD.

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 9:55PM

@Kattleox
There is one major problem with what you say, and i quote "but SONY PROMISES".....There in lies the problem, if sony's lips are moving, it's a lie.

And you might be happy bending over and taking one up the Khyber Pass from the BDA, I for one am not.I will buy another upscaling 1080p Panasonic DVD recorder with hard drive AND about $200 in change before I buy an unfinished beta profile DVD player.
I will never buy blu ray until it is a finished spec and less than $200, and by the time that has come around BR will be a thing of the past as well so there is no chance of me going blu.
As i said, fuck blu ray and everything it stands for.
THE FUTURE IS INDEED BLUE, the best chance HD media had has just been screwed by the biggest anti consumer cartel of the modern era!

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Superdynamite @ Jan 10th 2008 10:55PM

Which movie studio will be forever known as "The Last to Go Blu"?

Will Universal go Blu Before Paramount or Vise-versa?

Which ever studio is left holding the smelly bag of crap known as HD-DVD, will be the laughing stock of the electronics industry FOREVER! A permanent, bad reputation that they will never be able to shake. Wikipedia, Ask.com and every other web site in the Universe will display either Paramount or Universal as the very last to switch. Who will the lucky winner of the "enormous Bad Press prize" be? Who will forever be known as a "LOSER!"? :eek:

Think about it... let's say Paramount went blu today. From that moment on, all we would be hearing about is the lack of vision Universal Studios has. As the days pass, it would only get worse for the last HD-DVD supporter. I can't wait to see who the Unlucky one will be.

Please Vote:

[B]Which studio will forever be known as "The Last To Switch"?[/B]

[B](a) Paramount/Dreamworks[/B]

or

[B](b) Universal Studios[/B]

(Post your Vote on this Thread)

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EJNelly @ Jan 10th 2008 11:52PM

Will anybody but you and other Blu-Ray fanboys care who is last?

Will anybody care enough in the future to search?

Toshiba will forever be linked to HD DVD in the same sense that Sony will forever be linked to Beta max, but it's not going to be killer. Sony survived didn't they?

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Larry @ Jan 11th 2008 2:12PM

Hahahaha... Who was the last to join VHS?

(Sony in 1988)

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 11:10PM

This is just like World War II all over again, except this time the Germans won :(

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 11:28PM

......or should that be the Japanese!

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Gus @ Jan 10th 2008 11:32PM

.....Or should that be the Japanese!

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Superdynamite @ Jan 11th 2008 12:00AM

there are thousands of HD-DVD players on eBay.

First one to buy one is a momo.

Don't go HD-DVD, Go DIVX. It's better!

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Gus @ Jan 11th 2008 12:11AM

There have been some big blu ray idiots, h4idol and BBG to name a few, but you win the prize.

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Benzitor @ Jan 11th 2008 12:49AM

I dont want to put doubt on the statments of paramount and universal, but ones remember the warner december denial :

Warner's Noonan denies Blu-ray exclusive, which is nice

Dec 13th 2007

A week after Warner was to dirty HD DVDs swimming pool with their exclusive Blu-ray doodie, Jim Noonan (Noonan!), Warner Bros. Senior Vice President and General Manager, returns with this peach of a response, "We have made no decision to change our present policy which is to produce in both HD DVD and Blu-ray." And that's all she wrote.

I am actualy neither blu or red, or even purple...i have no hdtv, so HDM looks like a cold cup of tea to me. But i represent the wide majority of customers, the ones that look at this war with questions. The ones that stick to dvd until their is an clear winner.
HDDVD looks good, but BLU looks good as well.

The bonus ? who sincerly gives a damn. In europe, they had to reduce the price of the double dvd packs to get rid of them, it shows how much people care.

Better quality of the sound and pictures, HDM are all good to me ( better than upscaled dvd on a large tv+5.1 system ). Remember SUPERBIT, a large failure, that was superior in all means.

Replacing or re-buying the ealry releases to fit new specs...thats a known situation. Remember the early disney dvd, when you had to switch side to see the rest of the movie...or the first matrix release without superb sound, or the re-release of x-men in 5.1. Early format are tested, and then perfected, thats the way it is. And people buy, and re-buy, then fall for the 3 disc pack, the super collector, the remastered version ( i am owner of 4 blade runner dvds...i know what i am talking about ).

Buying a new standard to replace the old...i bought more than 4 dvd players since 10 years. Even with a fixed standard the player would be replaced one day or another, the size of players being the major problem in my opinion now ( like early dvds )

So all the fight is rediculous, and the war has to stop ! Blu or red, who gives a damn, but when there is a clear international domination of the blu, and almost all the studios behind it, all should stop right away and everybody should work to complete the format. That way HDM could grow bigger.

If the situation was opposite, i would talk the same way in favor of HDDVD.

It s been long enough, and toshiba should now drop it ( and MS in the same way ). The rumors are way stronger than the truth, and all around the world, the HDDVD has been anounced dead in the mainstream news ( even in thailand where i live ). SONY knows how it feels to be considered looser of a war...the ps3 is just rising after 2 years. So toshiba should learn to accept the fate of their format, and paramount and universal should stop selling a failling format to uninformed customers. IT is not in the favor of those people.

I personaly will wait until its done, or else i will pass on this generation of HDM ( and i have a ps3 and a 360, but see no point to inverst in this war yet )

Thank you all to be patient enough to read my long mail.

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Dan @ Jan 11th 2008 12:25AM

I personally don't care who wins the format war, as I'm not buying into either format right now. That said, I love all of the comments that say "wait for BD Live!" Of course, what they don't say is "wait for BD Live (profile 2.0), when you have to buy a new player." At least HD-DVD was a finished spec. . . of all the current BD players, how many support profile 2.0? Oh. . . one.

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Benzitor @ Jan 11th 2008 12:43AM

I dont want to put doubt on the statments of paramount and universal, but ones remember the warner december denial :

Warner's Noonan denies Blu-ray exclusive, which is nice

Dec 13th 2007

A week after Warner was to dirty HD DVDs swimming pool with their exclusive Blu-ray doodie, Jim Noonan (Noonan!), Warner Bros. Senior Vice President and General Manager, returns with this peach of a response, "We have made no decision to change our present policy which is to produce in both HD DVD and Blu-ray." And that's all she wrote.

I am actualy neither blu or red, or even purple...i have no hdtv, so HDM looks like a cold cup of tea to me. But i represent the wide majority of customers, the ones that look at this war with questions. The ones that stick to dvd until their is an clear winner.
HDDVD looks good, but BLU looks good as well.

The bonus ? who sincerly gives a damn. In europe, they had to reduce the price of the double dvd packs to get rid of them, it shows how much people care.

Better quality of the sound and pictures, HDM are all good to me ( better than upscaled dvd on a large tv+5.1 system ). Remember SUPERBIT, a large failure, that was superior in all means.

Replacing or re-buying the ealry releases to fit new specs...thats a known situation. Remember the early disney dvd, when you had to switch side to see the rest of the movie...or the first matrix release without superb sound, or the re-release of x-men in 5.1. Early format are tested, and then perfected, thats the way it is. And people buy, and re-buy, then fall for the 3 disc pack, the super collector, the remastered version ( i am owner of 4 blade runner dvds...i know what i am talking about ).

Buying a new standard to replace the old...i bought more than 4 dvd players since 10 years. Even with a fixed standard the player would be replaced one day or another, the size of players being the major problem in my opinion now ( like early dvds )

So all the fight is rediculous, and the war has to stop ! Blu or red, who gives a damn, but when there is a clear international domination of the blu, and almost all the studios behind it, all should stop right away and everybody should work to complete the format. That way HDM could grow bigger.

If the situation was opposite, i would talk the same way in favor of HDDVD.

It s been long enough, and toshiba should now drop it ( and MS in the same way ). The rumors are way stronger than the truth, and all around the world, the HDDVD has been anounced dead in the mainstream news ( even in thailand where i live ). SONY knows how it feels to be considered looser of a war...the ps3 is just rising after 2 years. So toshiba should learn to accept the fate of their format, and paramount and universal should stop selling a failling format to uninformed customers. IT is not in the favor of those people.

I personaly will wait until its done, or else i will pass on this generation of HDM ( and i have a ps3 and a 360, but see no point to inverst in this war yet )

Thank you all to be patient enough to read my long mail.

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