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Where are all the 1080p fanboys ion this one?

Cue a nice little stream of owners just set to make the most of those inexpensive 720p/1080i HD DVD players.

LMAO]]>Dec 18th 2007 8:51AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
"Truth Teller". HAH]]>Dec 18th 2007 9:01AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 9:03AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 9:48AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
It's the Kuro 50" PDP-5080HD that is 720p (well actually 768p). The 60 incher is 1080P.
Pioneer went for quality over pixels on the 50" model ("it's the black levels stupid"), but at 60" you just need the pixels.

Also, there isn't really such a thing as a 1080i flat panel display. All flat panels are inherently progressive scan and come mostly in 3 flavors: 1024 x 768, 1366 x 768, 1920 x 1080. I choose to feed my 768p set 1080i from my HD-DVD player to squeeze in those 48 extra lines, but 720p from the sat. box since most sports are broadcast at 720p and why have the signal scaled twice.]]>Dec 18th 2007 10:23AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 10:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 11:40AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
No, he's correct. Some Hitachi displays use ALiS technology which allows them to achieve higher vertical resolutions on smaller panels with a smaller number of electrode strips. ALiS displays drive alternating rows of pixels at 60 Hz and in a way are similar to the old CRT based displays.

Check out Hitachi's website. They still produce displays which use ALiS technology and thus the best description for their native resolution is 1080i.]]>Dec 18th 2007 12:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
I was (of course) referring to that other international award winning Kuro, the 50" which, as I rightly said, is indeed 720p/1080i.

.....and also like I said the Kuro 50" has regularly beaten many of the current 1080p HD TVs in fair and neutral comparisons.

(not that the 1080p spec-sheet obsessed fanboys care to admit it.)

BTW hilarious lame personal attacks there okeygrak; fine debate. Not.
Pathetic.]]>Dec 18th 2007 12:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
Hardly a "little" mistake. The 5080 and 6010 are two completely different sets. Different size, different resolution, different panels.

Besides, the 5080 is 768p. Not 720p

And saying that it is 720p/1080i makes no sense at all. Every HDTV can do 1080i, along with a few other resolutions. Do you also refer to 1080p sets as 1080p/1080i/720p/480p/480i?]]>Dec 18th 2007 2:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Do you also refer to 1080p sets as 1080p/1080i/720p/480p/480i?

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Why not?

If they can do it then they are, are they not?

(although stretching lower res over the larger native res can look plain horrible on so many of the 1080p screens.) ]]>Dec 18th 2007 2:56PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
Yes, they can do it. But that doesn't mean they are.

Sets are specified by their native resolution. And should be listed by that specification. Additionally, "supported" resolutions are also listed, separately.

Otherwise, every set would be advertised as 1080i or 1080p since most hdtv sets can scale those resolutions.

A 480 set can display a 1080 image with a scaler. However, it is still a 480 set, not 1080. ]]>Dec 18th 2007 3:27PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 4:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 18th 2007 4:06PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
LMAO

Too sad.]]>Dec 18th 2007 4:13PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/
But I am saying that I think it's fair point that it could & should be made clear that an HD TV can properly handle the lesser resolutions too.

Far too many 1080p TVs look utterly horrible when they try to show lower resolution SD TV.
That's important for many people cos SD TV will be around for a long time to come (not forgetting personal things like DVD/Video collections etc etc).]]>Dec 18th 2007 4:39PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Dec 20th 2007 4:40AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/18/ultimateavmag-makes-best-of-the-year-picks/Jan 6th 2008 9:36PM