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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Toshiba sold their oldgen ugly players at 500% loss. They continue to lose money even on the third gen. That is why no other company joins the losing game. Even if they keep up with that it will not last longer since BD gets cheaper.<br>And soon every PC will have cheap BD drive for backups and general usage (games and software cant fit to DVDs anymore).<br>It will be all over soon. The longer hd dvd manages to survive the better for Blu-ray since it drives BD price down.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 4:53AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[uhh.... wha?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[locke_me]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:05AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[HAHA! WOW, you are one delusional fanboi!!!!  Is SonyStyle.com your homepage?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Porfirio Reyes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:15AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[I heard Sony was looking to hire, Dave.  Put that quote in your resume', and you're in!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MAK42868]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 7:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Dave is in some serios denial.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[timatl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:44AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[The most popular Blu-ray player is the PS3, which is sold at a substantial loss.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Iscariote]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:15AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, way to make just make up numbers.<br><br>66.45% of Blu-ray zealots really own HD-DVD, but just won't admit it.<br><br>Ladies and Gentlemen, the BD FUD machine...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zargon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:44AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[You're a moron]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cam]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:32AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.<br><br>/HAL]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Region Free HD]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:37AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ Dave<br><br>I've said it once, I've said it a million times:  Where the hell are you getting your facts from!?  Give us a weblink supporting your views.  I fine with you being a Blu fan or even a Blu Fanboy, but outright trollers like yourself, HDpurist, h4Idol, et al, do more damage to your camp than support it.  Stop being a d-bag and get off your arse and give us something worth a damn!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 12:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Dave<br><br>Wake up.  Even your own team is claiming a stalemate.  I smell blood in the water--and it's blu-blood.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 2:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[500% loss ? do you mean that when they sell a player that cost them 200$ to make, they're losing 1000$ ? They're magicians ! With a technique like this George W could bankrupt America waaay faster !]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Franssu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 11th 2007 2:05PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[So I just wanted to point out that even though there were only 135k copies of Spider-Man 3 sold in the first week, this is not a disappointment.  I say this because these sales did not include the box set, which was leading in sales on amazon.com throughout the entire week (the box set was about 45th on the top selling dvds throughout the week, while the single disc was about 65th). <br><br>So hopefully the Nielsen report coming out later today will clear things up.  I expect Ratatouille to come out and be the first HD disc with 200k sales in the first week.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gadgie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[why even mention spider man 3?  You should be ashamed that terrible movie sold as well as it did.  blu-ray or hd-dvd, or dvd or somethign else, it doesent matter, it wont magically make spiderman 3 a good movie.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:38AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yup, Spiderman 3 was a disappointing movie, yet so was Transformers.  <br><br>Each to their own.  <br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[D@n]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:46AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yes, a stalemate indeed.. now everyone release everything for every player!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DeadPlasmaCell]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:55AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well, if everything was released to both formats, there's no question HD-DVD would win.  $99 players.  But that won't happen because the studios would all have to pay licensing fees to both sides.<br><br>This "war" isn't going anywhere because both sides want that licensing money.  Both sides have a lot invested, and at this point all they have to do is sit back and let the royalties roll in.  Why would either side concede defeat now?<br><br>It'll be a dual-format player for me when I jump into the HD game.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Raptor007]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 2:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[18,357 times the BDA has said they have won the war, and now it's a stalemate!<br> They've gone from won, to winning to a stalemate, what's next, surely not a loss.<br>Anyone remember beta?<br><br>How the mighty have fallen.If the following link is correct, some experts are saying HD DVD players could completely replace DVD players sooner rather than later, then it really is finished.<br><br><a href="http://www.avrev.com/news/1107/08.hddvd190.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.avrev.com/news/1107/08.hddvd190.shtml</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HD4ME]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 6:52AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Both sides keep declaring they have won.  It's called aggressive marketing.  It's nothing new and companies do this all the time.<br><br>As for HD-DVD players replacing DVD players? I find that very hard to believe.  For a start that price margin cannot be upheld for long, or if it can it won't be from the likes of Toshiba but from the budget hardware manufacturers.  Consumers are swayed heavily by brand so unless companies such as Panasonic, Philips, et al jump on board the neutrality wagon then they have a hard sell on their hands. You will find that it is only consumers that embrace new technology that are actively interested in HD anyway.<br><br>The average consumer is probably ignorant of what HD is.  I guarantee if I asked my parents if they knew what HD was, they would assume it was a sexually transmitted disease!<br><br>Standard DVD hardware isn't going anywhere!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[D@n]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 8:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Let me start out by saying that I own both formats.  If it truly is a stalemate, than lower prices will eventually prevail... advantage HD DVD.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan J.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:51AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well there was only suposed to be one format, Toshiba and Sony were close to creating one format until the annoying Arrogance of Sony pissed off toshiba by demanding full control of the unified format, so i don't blame Toshiba for leaving they knew their technology was cheaper to produce, and they know people care about price not all kinds of fancy specs. BETA was better then VHS and more technological but more costly and look what happend? The PS3 has better specs then the 360 especially when it was the onyl one with HDMI and 1080p but people didn't care the 360 was cheaper and has more and better games so the PS3 is lagging in sales.<br><br>I don't want Sony to control anything until they lose that that arrogance and go back to the 80's style Sony when they were the epitome of quality and cared about products and customers. They need to be humbled like Nintendo was during the SNES years (i know this is not a game forum but hear me out), the Former Pres. of Nintendo was what Sony is now he was so cocky and arrogant from the SNES being so popular that he pissed off all the 3rd party support and made the N64 cartridge based and was the reason the PS1 even exists and was killed by it so they forced him out and put in a new man in charge and the new guy went back to the drawing board and created the DS and Wii and are now on top when they were dead last and everyone thought they should end the console race and go the way of Sega, now lok at them? That is what i want to happen to Sony. I want them to be dead last and have to rethink things and have to go back to the drawing board and come up with something awesome and ragain their 80's glory. <br><br>Does that make sense?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Phoenixxx1974]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 7:59AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[No your comment makes NO sense.<br><br>Sony does not have full control over the BD format. You rant is nothing but fanboy fantasy.<br><br>Sony has shared the BD association with a slew of other companies that all contribute and have their own tech. <br><br>Toshiba is the one that wanted all the power  based on their win for the DVD standard.<br><br>Sony is the one that went around and got the initial consent and buy in of the CE manufacturers and Content developers.<br><br>Today Toshiba and Microsoft stand alone fueling the HD war one bags of money so huge they don't actually have to care if they ever make a profit in  movies.<br><br>If Toshiba was actually in the mood to share they would have had more allies. It's plain to see that they are the ones who went ahead alone. Going alone  BD would have been dead by now along with Sony.<br><br>Sony is far smaller and has much less cash in this case. It might simply be a case of the fact they know they couldn't do it alone. The BDA is an actual alliance of companies.<br><br>Hd-DVD is Toshiba with some IP and lip service from MS.<br><br>Not necessary good or bad but this is the way it really is.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:23AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sony doesn't control the blu-ray group, but toshiba controls the hd-dvd group, why are people confused?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[jason]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 8:06AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sony is pretty much Blu-ray, even though there are many co-conspirators.<br><br>Sony controls Sony, Columbia, Tri-Star and MGM studios.  They also own many of the BD patents and sell the PS3, which accounts for 80-90% of the installed Blu-ray base, along with the best selling standalone players.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Murphy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@D@n "Both sides keep declaring they have won."<br><br>Please show me where Toshiba or the HD DVD Promotional Group has declared victory.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Region Free HD]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:54AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[jason,<br><br>Sony doesn't own the BDA, but they do have the most invested in Blu-Ray and stand the most to gain from it. Toshiba has a similar relation with HD DVD, but the HD DVD group and DVD forum make the major decisions.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffon2k]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:52AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Honestly I thought console were supposed to become like video players not the other way around. If this keeps up then I will be buying three players in the next generation and it will be a pain to get the "exclusive" movies I want. Also to these people who are saying Sony is arrogant...they are a company, that's what they do they hype there stuff, look at the HD-DVD group and their Michael Imperioli ads, they drive me nuts! Why would I want to hear a soprano tell me which Hi Def format to buy? This war is getting out of control. I was talking to my brother last night and said that if 30 Rock was released on HD-DVD, or The Office for that matter, I would have to get a player, but for now there is nothing I really want on HD-DVD. I want pirates and Spiderman (1 and 2) on an HD format and I'm getting that with bluray. Now when series besides the overrated Heroes or Prison Break come out on an HD format then I'll bite and go where I please. That being said if I had seen an HD-DVD player this past weekend for $100 I would have jumped at the chance to snatch it because it would have been as the cheapest I would have found it in a while]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[SolidOni]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 8:40AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, talk about a change of heart by the BluRay camp!! I feel much better now about my HD-DVD purchase last week! Hopefully, now, demand for HD-DVD disks will increase even more, and each studio will see the light and start producing them. The consumer really is the one who decides the winner. One example, I had been using Blockbuster Online and was quite happy. When I bought my player and noticed they only carried BluRay disks, I immediately canceled and joined NetFlix because they do carry both formats! I even gave Blockbuster this exact reason for canceling. Business 101 says if enough people do the same, they'll be carrying HD-DVDs again soon .... and so it goes.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HD Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:17AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@HDTom:<br><br>BB Online does carry HD DVDs. They have for a while now, actually. The Blu-ray exclusive is only in-store.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Garry]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:50AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Nice.  So, we go from h4ldol's trolling to med1320's thread crapping.  Hell, we might as well just pull a Godwin in every thread at this rate!  "{hated HD format} was invented by Nazis!!!!!"<br><br>WTF is going on here?  Have the insane asylums around the world started to release their patients without their medication?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[John B]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:19AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ John B<br><br>LMAO!, You're right.  It started about the same time most Americans reelected a moron for President.  They trying to bring about the Apocalypse.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 12:17PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Your just jealous that you don't have BF2. You must be a fascist Democrat.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[med1320]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 8:20PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[This thread isn't blowing up like I predicted it would.  This news does bode well for HD DVD though.  I feel better about the player I picked up last week as an X-mas gift for my father.  Now the A35 just needs to come down a bit in price so I can get one for myself.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Fuzz 53]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 9:50AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[It isn't blowing up because (and this is my opinion) HD DVD fans/owners aren't about gloating.  They see this news and basically say, "hm, that's great news" but very rarely do you see them come out and throw it in someone's face. Unlike what I have seen by Blu-ray fans/owners.  They seem to flip out whenever there is news about blu-ray.  If it favors Blu-ray they go to every forum and bash every HD DVD person, or they tend to gloat.  And if someone says what they are saying is wrong, they rip that person about.<br><br>HD DVD owners seem more humble and respectful, Blu-ray owners seem more hostile (not everyone, but I have noticed a lot) <br><br>I own both but i would say I favor HD DVD and like to read news on when something good goes there way. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 4:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, I do feel stupid now! The issue was, it wasn't one of their main categories while BluRay was. I looked further under "collections" and HD-DVD is there. I'll admit it when I'm wrong! I think this, paired w/ knowing they don't carry them in stores anymore, made me switch! OK - I'll probably switch back now :-). Thanks for the tip Garry!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HD Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:08AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[I know Dave's trolling, but I found his first line funny. :)<br><br>"Toshiba sold their oldgen ugly players at 500% loss. They continue to lose money even on the third gen"<br><br>You're trying to say that the first gen players cost Toshiba $2,500 to produce?!?!  That's classic! :D<br><br>And what about the #1 selling BD player, the PS3?  It's losing money on every sale but you're not worried about Sony?  You should look at the financial statements of both companies - Toshiba had a much stronger quarter than Sony.<br><br>On to the actual article -- I wonder if this is another PR move for Sony.  Lots of people are sick of their arrogance, so maybe the new plan is to look more humble to try and gain supporters?  Of course, one trip over to the blu-ray.com forums, and that disgusting taste will be back in your mouth, but hey.<br><br>@D@n: "Both sides keep declaring they have won. It's called aggressive marketing. "<br><br>Actually, I've never heard anything from the HD DVD camp saying that they've won.  They generally release facts, not rhetoric like newspapers with the headline "Blu-Ray Wins!"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Xyzzy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:01AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[I love how people knock Toshiba for losing so much cash on each sale so far. If they have enough cash to withstand this for a while, it's a great strategy, and one that Sony can't match for a long time! It's brilliant really!<br><br>Toshiba - as the only major MFG of HD-DVD players - can pretty much unilaterally decide to lose hundreds (presuming that's the case) on each player. No other HD-DVD manufacturer is really affected. Now, say Sony wanted to do the same. First, if they dropped down their current $499 player to say - $199 - guess what! So would Samsung, Panasonic, and any of the others. I'm guessing they would be none to happy w/ Sony's move. What - Sony gonna get on the phone w/ Pioneer and ask them to drop the price to $199? :-)!!! It's just not going to happen!! With all these manufacturers,  you would first need one of them to fall on the sword, and I don't see this happening any time soon!<br><br>Point is, Toshiba has the current autonomy to do this, while Sony just can't. Who would have thought being virtually the only manufacturer would turn out to be such an advantage! ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HD Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:15AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Prelude to Warner switching sides?<br><br>I should change my IP now before I get lynched.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mlody11]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:24AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Having priced the parts listed in the HD-A2 service manual schematics, assuming builds of 200K batches, it's pretty clear that Toshiba isn't losing very much at $199.  Their build cost is somewhere around $150-$200 FOB Shanghai.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Murphy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:39AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[So, Mr. Blu-Ray Optimist calls it a stalemate now?  Sounds like more of the same hyperbole.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Murphy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:43AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[As an owner of both HD formats, this comes as no surprize to me.What Stringer is likely trying to say is that Sony simply cannot afford to compete with HD DVD with the prices that the HD DV players have been lowered to recently(90,000 HD DVD players sold in 1 weekend is a hit, $97 or $300,only the fact that 90,000 sold matters to Sony).He's also likely admitting the loss of Paramount has hurt BRD player sales alot more than Sony was initially letting on.He also might be looking for a way to make a last dirch effort to unify the formats, if such a thig is even possible anymore.<br><br>Sony has been hemmoraging green for a few years now and obviously cannot compete with HD DVD at the new player price points because of the losses they have taken and continue to take on every PS3 they sell.With the PS3's lack of a decent number of heavy hitting games this holiday and being relegated to 3rd place in the console war, Sony can't rely on the PS3 to fight wars on 2 fronts.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tezs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 5:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[I am going to post somthing that I saw on another blog<br><br>"Though I do love how utterly easy it is to whip up geeks into a fervor over the most menial of topis. OMG Blu-ray or HD, PS3 or 360, these are the cucial battles of our time. Not hunger or AIDS.<br>So utterly pointless and such a waste of engery and time."<br><br>I think that sums it up]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[misbarne]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[well I am sure there are plenty of websites to argue about AIDS or hunger at.   Engadget isn't one of them.    I for one am glad to see Sony attempting to be humble in the face of glaring loss - not defeat but loss.   They are begging developers to stay with them for the PS3.   They declare victory for BluRay and now call it a stalemate knowing that HD DVD is going to be much stronger over then next months.<br>But where does this get us, the consumer?   If Sony wasn't such an arrogant prick to begin with (not just hidef but gaming was involved too), WE wouldn't have even been in a stalemate.   And we are - neither format is a superior viewing experience.   ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:04AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ misbarne<br>"I am going to post somthing that I saw on another blog<br><br>"Though I do love how utterly easy it is to whip up geeks into a fervor over the most menial of topis. OMG Blu-ray or HD, PS3 or 360, these are the cucial battles of our time. Not hunger or AIDS.<br>So utterly pointless and such a waste of engery and time."<br><br>I think that sums it up"<br><br>Umm ... of course, this is true, but you have to realize something - all these comments here are relative! In the world of high definition televisions, this is huge! When we make comments here, we're in this world. Now, outside the HD world, this is highly insignificant! But while we're here, it is going to appear to be a big deal!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HD Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ Joe<br><br>You are completely wrong.  HD-DVD is not just a toshiba project.  HD-DVD was the only industry wide approved next gen format.  Its Sony who decided to release the Blu-Ray even though HD-DVD was the one approved.<br><br>Anyways Blu-ray does not have a chance. Just look at all the Black Friday ads.  HD-DVD around $190, cheapest blu-ray will be the ps3 for $400 and the cheapest player is $500.<br><br>Which one do you think consumers will buy???<br>The $200 HD player or the $400 to $500 HD player.<br>Also the $200 HD player comes with 7 free HD-DVDs.<br>The PS3 does not come with free movies.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 3:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well, I said it once, I'll say it again!<br><br>R.I.P.<br><br>Beta, Memory Stick, Mini Disc,  Blu Ray, and yes PS3<br><br>PS3 is the next Sega Saturn.  Released to soon, way over priced (and still losing money per unit), complex programming keeping third party developers away, and the most important...a lack of a gaming library to keep people interested even after a year on the shelves.<br><br>And for the clowns talking about Toshiba losing money on units, well feast your eyes my friends:<br><br>"The PlayStation 3's initial production cost is estimated to have been US$805.85 for the 20 GB model and US$840.35 for the 60 GB model; however, they were priced at US$499 and US$599, respectively. The high manufacturing costs meant that every unit was sold at a loss of approximately $250, contributing to Sony's games division posting an operating loss of ¥232.3 billion (US$1.97 billion) in the fiscal year ending March 2007."]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:18AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[The comment from Stringer simple shows the people at the top actually know what is going on. I'm pretty  sure you would get a similar comment from the Toshiba CEO.<br><br>There is marketing hyperbole and then there is planning and growing your business. This one show the latter.<br><br>on a side note<br>Is it really true the 3 disk set didn't count to the sp3 sales numbers? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Dave<br>How can Toshiba (or any company) sell something at a %500 loss? They didn't give me any money. If they give it away it is a %100 loss for the company. No matter what it costs them to make. <br><br>To get more than 100% they would have to give you money with the purchase. I didn't get cash back when I bought my Toshiba (wish I had!). <br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gortzilla]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:40AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[Great week for HDVD, and great week for consumers.<br><br>I'll say it again, from "HD-DVD is dead!" to "HD-DVD WILL be dead" to "OK, so, we're at a stalemate"...<br><br>The consumers have spoken. The marketplace has spoken. Leave high end (Read: prohibitvely expensive), DRM infested technology in the niche markets where they belong. <br><br>Give the people high quality Tech.<br><br>Give the people affordable, high quality Tech.<br><br>Give the people tech they can use freely without having to prove they're not criminals with their wallets.<br><br>Give the people Red Technology-<br><br>Give the People HD-DVD!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Sony's Stringer: Blu-ray vs. HD DVD battle a "stalemate"]]></title><link>http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/09/sonys-stringer-blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-battle-a-stalemate/</guid><description><![CDATA[When the Blu Ray group proclaimed that they had won<br>the format war last December or January, it was a bit<br>like President Bush and his "Mission Accomplished"<br>banner.  We know how that has turned out.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Regan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 12:15PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>