http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/ Engadget HD Comments for How to buy a Toshiba HD-A3 for $87 http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 11:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
If you can get a few years of enjoyment out if it, then stop worrying about who will win or who will lose.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 2:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 11:51AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 1:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 3:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 1:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 11:58AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 11:59AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8494435&type=product&id=1186003898783]]>Nov 2nd 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Some guy defrauds a legitimate business out of money and people are applauding it? I could understand the who ray people doing this , but pleaaaase.

I sent this through to engdgetBD, but apparently sony selling off Sony Pictures Animation to offset rising debt is less important new then this. Dosen't this studio produce, or at least potentially produce BR movies??
Hmmmm, apparently it's not news.
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11660.cfm
]]>Nov 2nd 2007 8:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Some guy defrauds a legitimate business out of money and people are applauding it? I could understand the who ray people doing this , but pleaaaase.

I sent this through to engdgetBD, but apparently sony selling off Sony Pictures Animation to offset rising debt is less important new then this. Dosen't this studio produce, or at least potentially produce BR movies??
Hmmmm, apparently it's not news.
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11660.cfm
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Anyone preaching the virtues of either format needs to grow up and fast/get laid more. Really its not that interesting. I have never understood brand loyalty, how stupid do you have to be to support a brand? Wow the marketing guys must be pissing them selfs, could you make it anymore easy for them? It always seems to be a handful of companies that attract fanboys too, I have never met a philips fanboy..............

But yeah carry on and each to their own and all that. ]]>Nov 2nd 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 4th 2007 4:57PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
But I don't get this story. I thought the policy was that it had to be the same model AND it had to be in stock. The A2 is NOT in stock in my area's BB stores. I managed to scrape up the $99 A2 deal from a Wal-Mart this morning. If it looks like they don't have them, just ask. Probably should call ahead to see if they are still there. Said store had like a total of eight HD titles, four of them HD-DVD.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 12:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 12:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
H4Idol convinced to *me* buy an HD-DUD player. I just can't stomach the idea of being Blu-Ray owner if the fans are so childish and stupid. I can't be lumped in with them.
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Anyone else try the same thing?

- Roger]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 1:35PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 1:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
For those still fence sitting, you can always use netflix till you are certain... Until then, you still have a new upconvert DVD player built in as well, and we know those things are easily going for over $100... So theres still some value there...]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:10PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 2nd 2007 1:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
Just like DVD R+/- and RW+/- wars.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:48PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
They both show HD movies on my TV, and I can play either of them, now let's see who can pump out their discs cheaper.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:57PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
Re this little glitch, I wouldn't try it. Retailers will get wise to it real fast, and in six months, Toshiba's 3rd gen players will be cheaper anyway, moreso if Warner drops the atomic bomb and announces HD DVD exclusivity. Yes, this sounds like wishful thinking, but all of these announcements by major retailers like Wal-Mart, Sears, and K-Mart make me think they know something the rest of us don't.

Sony/Columbia, Fox/MGM and Disney vs Universal, Paramount and Warner in an epic battle for high-def market share? This would be akin to JLA vs Avengers. Or Thanos vs Darkseid depending on your viewpoint.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 1:56PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Maybe not illegal, but certainly immoral! Fraud does come to mind]]>Nov 2nd 2007 2:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
Assuming something alike to a DVD -R/+R scenario then with dual format players everywhere the studios will have no reason not to go with the most profitable and low cost solution.
Which is HD DVD.

But it will not come to that.

People will be glad about this week, the appeal for 'someone' to 'call' this format war was made and it has just been answered.

The retail industry just called the war for HD DVD.

Watch Warner go HD DVD exclusive in Jan 2008, others will follow (possibly after a short period of 'format neutrality' for decency's sake.....especially Disney once the 51gb TL HD DVD emerge). ]]>Nov 2nd 2007 2:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
F* them, F* the way they do business, everyone get an A3 for $99!
(and then take your A2 back to Best Buy)

]]>Nov 2nd 2007 2:53PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/lookLearn.do?cat=-13318&edOid=105471&c=1
]]>Nov 2nd 2007 3:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/When dvds were first introduced LASER DISC was the thing of the future, Those 12" Lp record looking
discs that Pioneer was behind. We all know that Toshiba's dvd sunk laser disc fast. let's see, Sony had beta, Failed. Sony had mini disc, Failed. I believe Sony also had laser disc, failed also. Blu-ray will fail! ]]>Nov 2nd 2007 3:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
Both Toshiba and Sony were made laserdisc players. Sony and Toshiba EMI made laserdiscs. I think it was Pioneer's format, I don't think it really belonged to anyone else except as licensees.]]>Nov 3rd 2007 9:11AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
I had confirmed the lack of inventory nearest me as I've never seen these stores stock the A2 in the past four months. Anyway, learning of this and that I've decided to take back this extra unit as it just doesn't seem like its worth $197 in the face of all this.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 9:23PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
In most states there is a set amount that a person has to defraud- in Vermont, if you defraud someone out of more than $900, it's a felony: 10 years maximum, $2,000 maximum fine, or both. If you defraud someone out of less than $900, it's a misdemeanor: 1 year maximum, $1,000 maximum fine, or both. (13 VSA 47 § 2002)

Now, would anything ever happen to this guy? No. Circuit City almost certainly won't care, but both them and Best Buy better move quickly before more people try to take advantage of this.

Engadget, you might want to update your post with an explicit note for your readers to warn them not to try this.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 9:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
You folks buying the A2/A3 units DO realize it can't play Blu-ray right? That means NO good movies to watch except horrible Universal exclusives, all encoded under a lowly sub-par 29.4 Mbit/s...]]>Nov 2nd 2007 11:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
The typical rate I've seen is around 18-23MBps. You need to provide examples of Blu-Ray movies exceeding the 30MBps rate for a meaningful amount of time.

Besides, it's not just the exclusives that can be played, it's not as if an HD DVD disc can't play because it's also available on Blu-Ray.]]>Nov 3rd 2007 9:05AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 4th 2007 8:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/How is that for childish, rude and downright stupid Prejudice?
Tells a lot more aboutthe average HD DVD fan mentality than a mere "HD DUD" imho.]]>Nov 5th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
A]]>Nov 8th 2007 10:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 4th 2007 9:29PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/
But you are correct on that the low 30 or less mbit/s applies to only those films released on BD and HD-DVD, but the exclusives are often encoded way higher. HD-DUD is such a sub-par spec, it's slowing down the advancement of Hi-Def.]]>Nov 4th 2007 9:41PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 4th 2007 10:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/02/how-to-buy-a-toshiba-hd-a3-for-87/Nov 5th 2007 11:03PM