http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/ Engadget HD Comments for Transformers HD DVD review roundup http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
As far as the sound, High-Def digest gave it five-stars. The fact that it is not lossless was a battle-cry for many BD supporters--but I guess it sounds pretty good as five is the theoretical limit for stars.]]>Oct 15th 2007 3:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:07PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:09PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 16th 2007 10:24AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
I received the movie earlier today from Netflix and watched it on a Samsung 50" HL-S5088w using the hd-dvd player on my 360. At no point did I see any jagged lines or any problems with the image quality.

Once I have my AVR hooked up, I'll decide whether this is one I want to permanently add to my library.]]>Oct 16th 2007 8:30PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
http://www.jasondunn.com/xbox-360-hd-dvd-lock-up-playing-heroes-disc-508]]>Oct 15th 2007 3:45PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:47PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:50PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 4:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
What the disc is missing is lossless audio such as Dolby True HD. I am not bothered by this as this is sounding like a top notch soundtrack no matter what.]]>Oct 15th 2007 3:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Let's just ignore the fact that they got paid $150M to 'choose' them, shall we. If it's such a great format why keep lying about the fact that it's a format on welfare? ]]>Oct 15th 2007 4:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 4:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Everyone in this game gets something. Money, patent income, co-operation in other ventures, etc. Do you think Disney is doing what they do for fun? Or because they "bleed Blue-ray blue"? They are getting something, too. And there's nothing wrong with that -- companies are in business to do business and make money.

For the record, Paramount was not "given $150 million cash", they were promised that there would be money spent on co-marketing, advertising and other business activities to support them. Much like Sony subsidizing a Disney 2-for-1 deal.]]>Oct 15th 2007 5:21PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Problems getting you audio formats straight? That sentence would read like this...

"An unfortunate casualty of all the extras on this two disc set was a "lossless" audio track"

On top of this... "Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround mix"... should read "Dolby Digital + 5.1 Surround mix"

Please don't leave out specific information (especially in a technology post)... it makes you look like a biased reporter.]]>Oct 15th 2007 4:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 4:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 4:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 4:57PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 5:24PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
http://www.pacificdisc.com/PricingBluRay.html
http://www.pacificdisc.com/PricingHD-DVD.html

Packaged, in quantities of 100k, the difference is $0.40 a disc, single layer for both. In 10k quantities, that's $0.42. If you even it up a bit, HD-DVD in dual layer is only $0.20 cheaper per disc (30GB) vs. single layer (25GB) BRD. Until you go down to the 1k quantities, I really don't think the cost disparities are that significant for duplication costs to be somehow staggeringly expensive. Even a $10-$15 disc from the BOGO specials is probably bringing a little money back, even after considering distribution and retail mark-up expenses.]]>Oct 15th 2007 11:56PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 5:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 5:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
So what part of that means that means that Paramount stopped making Blu-Ray for any reason other than the money!?!? You people simply don't make sense.

All I said what that the idea that this disc will show why paramount dropped Blu-Ray isn't possible (unless one of the features shows the paramount execs bathing in cash).]]>Oct 15th 2007 7:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 5:55PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Call me a doubter no more."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/review.php?ID=30988

It's just a matter of time now, HD DVD stand-alones are selling very very well and have a much higher movie disc attachment rate compared to PS3, er I mean Blu-ray.

HD DVD has Blu-ray beaten for price, spec and now movie content (both exclusive & available).

Like I said, it's just a matter of time......and seeing as how HD DVD cost (relatively speaking) nothing in R&D and new plant it is HD DVD that can afford the lower and slower growth and rate of return, not Blu-ray.

Blu-ray is headed the same way as UMD is to the PSP, a market of millions worth selling to for some time, of course, but basically it's going nowhere and dead.
The just might get some interest in professional bulk data storage if they can get the 100gb/200gb media & hardware out at a price the business market might pay.
]]>Oct 15th 2007 6:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Mexigun]]>Oct 15th 2007 6:43PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Sure you will. I'm sure it's already been pressed and loaded with Profile 2.0 features. Hundreds or thousands of copies are just sitting in a warehouse waiting for the day for the contract to be over... Don't believe Paramount when they say they were unhappy with the costs and poor interactivity for Blu-Ray--believe Blu-Ray bloggers and random posters!]]>Oct 15th 2007 7:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 7:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
But Paramount got tired of waiting for BD to get it's act together. It is STILL not finished, 18 months after launch, and no two players do the same thing the same way. Paramount was losing money and delaying product to accomdate BD. Life is short, product life especially so, and they went back to their original position: exclusive.

What's not to understand. My only question is why Warner is still sticking it out.]]>Oct 15th 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
11 of top 15 movies of 2006 are from blu-ray exclusive studios. 7 of top 15 from Sony themselves.

Box Office 2006 Source: Box Office Mojo

Position Title Studio Domestic Gross

1 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $423,315,812 blu-ray only
2 Cars BV $244,082,982 blu-ray only
3 X-Men III: The Last Stand Fox $234,362,462 blu-ray only
4 The Da Vinci Code Sony $217,536,138 blu-ray only
5 Superman Returns WB $200,081,192 both
6 Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $195,330,621 blu-ray only
7 Happy Feet WB $185,625,671 both
8 Night at the Museum Fox $165,150,384 blu-ray only
9 Casino Royale Sony $160,047,891 blu-ray only
10 Over the Hedge P/DW $155,019,34 hd-dvd only
11 Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby Sony $148,213,377 blu-ray only
12 Click Sony $137,340,146 blu only
13 Mission: Impossible III Par. $133,501,348 hd-dvd only
14 Borat Fox $126,598,982 blu-ray only
15 The Pursuit of Happyness Sony $124,834,524 blu-ray only

Paramaount only holds the #10 + #13 spots, Universal didn't make the top 15.

Top Ten Global Summer Blockbusters of 2007

# Film Gross ($M)
1 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End $958 blu-ray only
2 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix $912 both
3 Spider-Man 3 $890 blu-ray only
4 Shrek the Third $757 hd-dvd only
5 Transformers $685 hd-dvd only
6 The Simpsons Movie $482 blu-ray only
7 Ratatouille $390 blu-ray only
8 Die Hard 4.0 $356 blu-ray only
9 Ocean's Thirteen $305 both
10 The Bourne Ultimatum $278 hd-dvd only

7 on blu-ray, 5 on hd-dvd. 5 blu-ray exclusives, 3 hd-dvd exclusives, 2 neutrals.

Hd-dvd exclusive studios, Universal/NBC tv, and Paramount/Dreamworks
Blu-ray exclusive studios, Sony, including Columbia, 20th Century Fox/Fox tv, Lionsgate, MGM, Disney/Buena Vista, Miramax, Pixar, and Touchstone.
Plenty of good movies for both, but blu-ray has a much greater selection.
Between now (10/10) and the end of the year blu-ray has 120 announced titles coming out to hd dvds 65.
Put together these facts when I was on the fence trying to decide between the 2 formats. I suppose I don't need to tell you which way I went. It had nothing to do with Sony infatuation, although I do believe that they make very good quality products hence they charge more and still are an industry leader. I had a Toshiba vcr many years ago and thought it was well made too.
For me it came down to movies available and on the horizon. Studio backing, and elec. manufacturer support. Most electronic hardware producers have joined blu-ray including Philips, Sharp, JVC, LG, Daewoo, Loewe, Denon, Funai, Hitachi, Harmon Kardon, Sony, Apple, Dell, Acer, TDK, Samsung, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, intel, and Hewlett Packard.
Manufacturer support of hd-dvd, Hewlett Packard, Acer, Toshiba, LG (combo player), Microsoft, Samsung (combo player), and Venturer.
Blockbuster retail is blu-ray exclusive. ]]>Oct 15th 2007 8:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Wow, this bullshit gets posted every time someone sneezes blu ray!! Why don't you recalculate over the last 10 years instead of this 1 year propaganda.
In case you haven't realized fool, people are buying movies from lots of different years,2007 included, so stop constantly spreading this blu ray FUD about 2006!!
When you recalculate, you will get an entirely different, and balanced result, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, whatever, put it into perspective!... but I guess you don't want that.

Anyone can quote miles of boring 1 eyed crap to suit their own fanboy driven paranoia , but in case you haven't realized, this HD war isn't being fought over 2006!!!]]>Oct 16th 2007 2:59AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Your post describes beautifully why blu ray WILL FAIL, to many players, & not enough pie.
How can a consortium that big, with so much money involved, be a viable proposition when BR has less than %1 of the DVD market?
Simple mathematics say BR cant survive.
Mass market HD adoption is not happening, the average Joe cant/wont spend the money when upscaled DVD does a damn fine job.
Very cheap pricing is the only solution for mass market HD adoption, and that means BR is doomed as the investment is enormous, the returns are very low, the market is very small, and BR is to damn expensive.
You would hate to be Panasonic with $millions tied up in BR technology and the only BR player selling is PS3. Discount the PS3 price even further losing truckloads of $ in the process, where does that leave the rest of the CE partners?
Up shit creek, that's where!]]>Oct 16th 2007 4:44AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
I prefer the selection of films on HD DVD, but that's very personal and I don't expect people to agree with me on that. ]]>Oct 16th 2007 7:11AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
25GB Blu-Ray disc replication is less on average than 30GB HD DVD disc replication. 50GB discs cost about 60-70 cents more. Also notable is that Blu Ray is cheaper per GB on average.

Go ahead and look up the costs now. Blu-Ray is putting a ton more discs with the 2:1 sales ratio of movies, plus all the PS3 games. Lets wait and see how much the 51GB HD DVD disc costs.

The cost is in the content on the DVD, not the actual disc.]]>Oct 15th 2007 9:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
25GB Blu-Ray disc replication is less on average than 30GB HD DVD disc replication. 50GB discs cost about 60-70 cents more. Also notable is that Blu Ray is cheaper per GB on average.

Go ahead and look up the costs now. Blu-Ray is putting a ton more discs with the 2:1 sales ratio of movies, plus all the PS3 games. Lets wait and see how much the 51GB HD DVD disc costs.

The cost is in the content on the DVD, not the actual disc.]]>Oct 15th 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 9:28PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
good post...although I think you posted this last week. I know, I know, it's a redundant counter on the red camp..

Kevin/HD-DVD supporter:
there's this uncanny tone that needs to be set straight. HD-DVD is a specified format, but giving it "specification" are you saying it's perfect and/or better than BD? In the early stages of adapting to a hi-def format, I chose blu-ray because it hasn't set the standard yet. There's this up and coming urban legend that it has all these problems that are killing itself such as BD+ (which I might add was never that severe and was fixed within a week's time). People, give it a rest. There are advantages to each format, but each format went down a different path.

IT IS TOO EARLY TO SET A STANDARD!!!!]]>Oct 15th 2007 9:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
::there's this uncanny tone that needs to be set straight. HD-DVD is a specified format, but giving it "specification" are you saying it's perfect and/or better than BD? In the early stages of adapting to a hi-def format, I chose blu-ray because it hasn't set the standard yet. There's this up and coming urban legend that it has all these problems that are killing itself such as BD+ (which I might add was never that severe and was fixed within a week's time). People, give it a rest. There are advantages to each format, but each format went down a different path.

IT IS TOO EARLY TO SET A STANDARD!!!!::
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Wow! That's the best Blu-ray fanboyism I've EVER heard! Congratulations!

You mean that since Blu-ray has incomplete specifications that result in overpriced, underperforming players, it's somehow the format to buy?

""I bought it because it's not finished""...I don't ever do this...but...ROFL!]]>Oct 15th 2007 9:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
*yawn*

Keep telling yourself that.

Now, no one is claiming HD-DVD to be perfect, I am not sure where you are pulling that from. The point is that people with HD-DVD do not have to worry about hardware they buy now, not working with software coming out later. You are fooling yourself if you don't think there isn't going to be issues with profile 1.1 and 2.0. It requires more hardware for the added features and with all the issues they have been having to date, I wouldn't be holding my breath. With HD-DVD however, people who bought first, second or third generation players do not have to worry about this. Sure, it is a fine edge sword locking in a format, but it is necessary in consumer products for the very reasons mentioned.

Lets face the facts here, BR was pushed out the door well before it was ready for prime time as to not miss the HDM boat. These profiles are just their pathetic attempt to cover their asses on their poor decision. Pathetic, screwing over your early adopters is always a great way to get more business. It is also pathetic that so many people are trying to defend this move, like it is some added bonus for BR.

Why would you buy an incomplete product that you know is incomplete and the company openly admits it, leaving you out in the cold. I am curious as to what else you would buy that is known to be incomplete.
]]>Oct 15th 2007 10:26PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Are you kidding???!!!
@doorbell
Thank god,... , brake manufacturers, airline industry, pharmaceuticals, food processing, shipping, petroleum,auto manufactures, the list is endless,... don't subscribe to your theory, the world would be a very ugly place!
After 10 years of DVD, there should be very clear standards!
Your theory says , It's OK to build 2nd best crap while we test our absurdly expensive products on the unwary consumers. That sounds like communism.]]>Oct 16th 2007 5:01AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/call it what you want. Yeah, it's so overpriced, my wallet feels pain, better throw away my PS3, damn reistance fall of man and folklore, and all those Blu-ray movies i love, so damned overpriced...I'll let you know when microsoft has a bug, and I'll go out of my way to make headlines.

There's no fanboyism, I'd say that to any format.

I rather have a "half-baked" format than a pre-mature specified standard.]]>Oct 15th 2007 10:08PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 10:47PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/
Skimming through your long post, I can't help to jump to "Let's face the facts", and quickly reply that, IT IS NOT FACT, rather subjective and you and I are entitled to our opinion.

The people who are SOL (in my theory) are the people who are missing out on PiP (upcoming), but for those who don't give a rats, and just want the movie, they aren't getting screwed. I made the decision to buy a PS3 for multiple reason. blu-ray is great for movies....... AND GAMES. Yes there are few titles out there, but the titles I do own, aree very enjoyable.

I say "incomplete" in the context to those who support HD-DVD because thats what they understand, but in my vision, blu-ray is evolving, and their avenue of choice was the movie, not the supplements/interactivity. Movie and sound, that's all i care about.

Scroll up, and see the post richard commented. It speaks for itself, and my decision is based on the library out there by sony and those are neutral. Also, do a query on amazon.highdefdigest.com I did a query Top 100, Avg rank for blu-ray, 576, avg rank for hd-dvd... 3,600. Transformers owns the top spot right now, but in perspective, the top 23 of 25 top selling movies are blu-ray.

And not say hd-dvd or even blu-rar are perfect, but the points i made above are the reasons why i chose this format.

And here's my perspective, which is entirely subjective, not fact as you are quickly misusing that word

HD-DVD = current gen
Blu-ray = next gen

TL51.. is that confirmed to work on all existing players? or are they still "Investigating" ?]]>Oct 15th 2007 10:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/15/transformers-hd-dvd-review-roundup/Oct 15th 2007 10:49PM