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Mexigun]]>Oct 12th 2007 4:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
On the AVS thread on the buy date a lot of users are waiting till Oct 16th to bu Knocked Up. If they weren't HD DVD would have beat blue ray last week.]]>Oct 13th 2007 12:18AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 4:23PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 4:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 6:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 5:52PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 5:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 5:53PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 7:41PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 6:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 6:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
You criticized Ben for not showing previous weeks numbers where BD was still beating HD-DVD.

No matter what week you cut it last week, this week, this month,this year and total market has gone to Bluray.

What was your point? To show that HD-DVD can loose by a smaller margin?

HD-DVD may win, wake me when they have %49-50 since inception adoption. ]]>Oct 12th 2007 6:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
I think it was valid criticism. I'm sorry if others disagree.

Anyway, Ben commented on the fact they were 1.2:1 last week--and I believe I distributed the appropriate amount of props for that.]]>Oct 12th 2007 7:48PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 7:39PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/What is it with you sony/BR fools. This company is hell bent and screwing their customer base, yet you idiots keep supporting it and want it to win. No matter how good the product may or may not be, the BR format should never be allowed to win, first and foremost it is about sony dictating its draconian DRM laws to the legitimate majority, and they don't care who gets burnt along the way.
The PS3 first and foremost is a BR player, i feel sorry for the suckers who thought they were buying a games machine and are now stuck with a beautifully engineered door stop, and please, don't give me any grief about the quality games the PS3 have, they simply don't and sony don't care.It's all about winning the HD format war, and until sony has that sewn up, the games console buyers are the bridesmaids and not the bride.
What a joke
]]>Oct 12th 2007 7:44PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 8:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 12th 2007 8:13PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/At 37 years of age i think I can afford a PS3 to go with one of 2 50"plasmas I own,but I wont because I hate what sony stands for.
So go tidy up your room and then go squeeze your zits, puberty boy.]]>Oct 12th 2007 8:33PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
I am waiting to see where all you fanboys will be hiding in two weeks...

The past few weeks have have shown that the race is pretty much dead even. As Q4 comes to a end, I am sure that the ratio is going to get closer and closer, Blu-ray is losing ground. The weeks are going to go back and forth due to the release schedule, but by end of the year, I have no reservation that this is going to be pretty close to 50/50. Which is outstanding when you compare studio support and the amount of players for each format out there.

I am also hoping that the rumors that we have heard some whispers about are true, that we will see Warner go exclusive next year. I want to see it if not for nothing else, to watch all the blu-ray fanboys and zealots squirm and come up with wild excuses... oh and to level the playing field as far as studio support.]]>Oct 12th 2007 9:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
"Lose" rhymes with "cruise" and means to misplace.

"Loosening" is a word, but "loosing" is not and never has been.

For the life of me, I CANNOT understand the epidemic confusion between these two words on every site from AVS Forum to ZDNet. Of course, it's more rampant when discussing these two formats ad infinitum. Forget burgeoning obesity (pun intended), this country needs a grammatical enema!

Then again, when we have a president who uses words like "hispanically," it all becomes so clear...

]]>Oct 12th 2007 9:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
But then in April when Toshiba had the $100 instant rebate and HD DVD started selling over 10,000 players a month (not counting then xbox360 add on) then followed with great prices at Amazon, best buy and value electronics the year to date sales slowly shrank till about 3 or 4 weeks ago it hit 66-34. And last week the numbers were 54-46.

So the thing to watch is how the better priced HD DVD starts taking off with the middle class and joe 6 pack how blue ray loose that lead.]]>Oct 13th 2007 12:28AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/01/07 63.3/36.7 63.3/36.7 41.2/58.8
01/14 68.2/31.8 65.7/34.3 43.2/56.8
01/21 67.8/32.2 66.4/33.6 45.1/54.9
01/28 68.8/31.2 67.0/33.0 46.7/53.3
02/04 69.0/31.0 67.4/32.6 48.1/51.9
02/11 69.6/30.4 67.7/32.3 49.3/50.7
02/18 65.0/35.0 67.4/32.6 50.3/49.7
02/25 68.5/31.5 67.4/32.6 51.5/48.5
03/04 65.7/34.3 67.2/32.8 52.2/47.8
03/11 68.7/31.3 67.9/32.1 52.8/47.2
03/18 81.7/18.3 69.2/30.8 54.3/45.7
03/25 n/a 70.4/29.6 55.6/44.4
04/01 n/a 69.9/30.1 56.2/43.8
04/08 62.4/37.6 69.4/30.6 56.4/43.6
04/15 61/39 69/31 57/43
04/22 52/48 68/32 57/43
04/29 71/29 68/32 58/42
05/06 60/40 68/32 57/43
05/13 62/38 68/32 57/43
05/20 58/42 67/33 57/43
05/27 69/31 67/33 58/42
06/03 61/39 67/33 59/41
06/10 66/34 67/33 59/41
06/17 64/36 67/33 59/41
06/24 70/30 67/33 59/41
07/01 65/35 67/33 60/40
07/08 66/34 67/33 60/40
07/15 61/39 67/33 60/40
07/22 74/26 67/33 60/40
07/29 66/34 67/33 60/40
08/05 62/38 66/34 60/40
08/12 66/34 66/34 61/39
08/19 71/29 67/33 61/39
08/26 68/32 67/33 61/39
09/02 56/44 66/34 61/39
09/09 60/40 66/34 61/39
09/16 61/39 66/34 61/39
09/23 63/37 66/34 61/39
09/23 54/46 66/34 61/39
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Yeah!]]>Oct 13th 2007 1:38AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 13th 2007 5:06AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 13th 2007 3:42AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 13th 2007 10:50AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
Suck on what? It sounds like BDA sure is deperate... having to supplement BR costs just to boost sales.

I hope Sony and the BDA can continue to sustain all this money they are losing try to keep BR going.]]>Oct 13th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
Here are numbers - no spin - just numbers. I am in no way suggesting that one format is better than the other - these are just numbers.

1. Blu-ray sells more movies, according to Nielsen, every week. The Since Inception numbers have been steadily climbing. If the current trend continues the SI numbers will be 62/38 within two weeks. (I have no way of knowing if the trend will continue, I am only looking at the graphs.)

2. According to Toshiba's most recently announced numbers they are selling approximately 10,000 stand-alone players per week. According to the recent NPD numbers that is 53% of the players sold with Blu-ray at 44% and dual-format at 3%. So then the numbers are 10,000 HD DVD players per week, 8,302 Blu-ray players per week, and 566 dual-format players. For a grand total of 18,868 players sold per week. (These numbers assume the 10k per week from Toshiba is correct, I have no way to verify this number. I would also point out that the graph shows a decline from 70% to 53% for HD DVD in the last 6 months.)

3. Compared to the 19k stand alone players sold weekly the PS3 is selling, on average, 30k units per week. This is the average over the last 4 weeks. (I would like to see a comparison of this number to the HD DVD add-on for the 360 but I do not have those numbers. Also at various times Toshiba has included the add-on in their calculations of stand-alone players; however, I do not think the 10k number above includes them.)

One last note. The numbers I quoted here are the most accurate I have access to and only represent the United States.

If anyone else has any more accurate numbers I would love to see them.]]>Oct 13th 2007 5:42PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
09/02 56/44 66/34 61/39
09/09 60/40 66/34 61/39
09/16 61/39 66/34 61/39
09/23 63/37 66/34 61/39
09/23 54/46 66/34 61/39

how does BD selling 56% 60% 61% 63% 54% move the SI higher then 61%? talk about spin...or bad math.

With Transformers coming out next week there is a better chance of it dropping back to 60%.

Again the telling data is how the year to date gap has narrowed since toshiba started lowering the price of HD DVD to a price the middle class will pay...and when HD DVD is under $149 or $129 then the joe 6pk crowd will jump on.

I have not seen Toshiba release sells figures since this summer..except at CEDIA they said they will sell 1 million by end of year.]]>Oct 13th 2007 10:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/how does BD selling 56% 60% 61% 63% 54% move the SI higher then 61%? talk about spin...or bad math.
--END QUOTE

Mike, there is neither spin nor bad math here. Maybe you do not understand the concept of a trend.

Trend -
1. The general drift, tendency or bent of a set of statistical data as related to time.
2. The general direction, either upward or downward of a market.

Using either of these definitions and a basic graph anyone can see the trend. Try it. This of course, as I have already said, assumes that the trend continues. If HD DVD sales better in upcoming weeks then the trend is not continuing and the SI will not increase.

One last thing, why did you decide to leave out last week's numbers? Maybe because the 68% Blu-ray supports exactly what I said in my post?]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:20PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
Box Office 2006 Source: Box Office Mojo

Position Title Studio Domestic Gross

1 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $423,315,812 blu-ray only
2 Cars BV $244,082,982 blu-ray only
3 X-Men III: The Last Stand Fox $234,362,462 blu-ray only
4 The Da Vinci Code Sony $217,536,138 blu-ray only
5 Superman Returns WB $200,081,192 both
6 Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $195,330,621 blu-ray only
7 Happy Feet WB $185,625,671 both
8 Night at the Museum Fox $165,150,384 blu-ray only
9 Casino Royale Sony $160,047,891 blu-ray only
10 Over the Hedge P/DW $155,019,34 hd-dvd only
11 Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby Sony $148,213,377 blu-ray only
12 Click Sony $137,340,146 blu only
13 Mission: Impossible III Par. $133,501,348 hd-dvd only
14 Borat Fox $126,598,982 blu-ray only
15 The Pursuit of Happyness Sony $124,834,524 blu-ray only

Paramaount only holds the #10 + #13 spots, Universal didn't make the top 15.

Top Ten Global Summer Blockbusters of 2007

# Film Gross ($M)
1 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End $958 blu-ray only
2 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix $912 both
3 Spider-Man 3 $890 blu-ray only
4 Shrek the Third $757 hd-dvd only
5 Transformers $685 hd-dvd only
6 The Simpsons Movie $482 blu-ray only
7 Ratatouille $390 blu-ray only
8 Die Hard 4.0 $356 blu-ray only
9 Ocean's Thirteen $305 both
10 The Bourne Ultimatum $278 hd-dvd only

7 on blu-ray, 5 on hd-dvd. 5 blu-ray exclusives, 3 hd-dvd exclusives, 2 neutrals.

Hd-dvd exclusive studios, Universal/NBC tv, and Paramount/Dreamworks
Blu-ray exclusive studios, Sony, including Columbia, 20th Century Fox/Fox tv, Lionsgate, MGM, Disney/Buena Vista, Miramax, Pixar, and Touchstone.
Plenty of good movies for both, but blu-ray has a much greater selection.
Between now (10/10) and the end of the year blu-ray has 120 announced titles coming out to hd dvds 65.
Put together these facts when I was on the fence trying to decide between the 2 formats. I suppose I don't need to tell you which way I went. It had nothing to do with Sony infatuation, although I do believe that they make very good quality products hence they charge more and still are an industry leader. I had a Toshiba vcr many years ago and thought it was well made too.
For me it came down to movies available and on the horizon. Studio backing, and elec. manufacturer support. Most electronic hardware producers have joined blu-ray including Philips, Sharp, JVC, LG, Daewoo, Loewe, Denon, Funai, Hitachi, Harmon Kardon, Sony, Apple, Dell, Acer, TDK, Samsung, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, intel, and Hewlett Packard.
Manufacturer support of hd-dvd, Hewlett Packard, Acer, Toshiba, LG (combo player), Microsoft, Samsung (combo player), and Venturer.
Hd-dvds are losing shelf space to blu-ray at Targets, Walmarts, Frys, and Blockbuster retail is blu-ray exclusive.
If hd dvd wins there will be no competition to keep hd dvd hardware prices down. If blu-ray wins we still have every major manufacturer except for Toshiba battling it out.]]>Oct 14th 2007 5:51AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 14th 2007 2:34PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 14th 2007 8:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 15th 2007 2:52AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/
The original story has this weeks numbers and when I went to the AVS thread and copied this post it was only updated to what i have...but since the story is about Oct 7th data it isn't really needed.]]>Oct 15th 2007 3:01AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/12/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-october/Oct 17th 2007 9:55PM