Sony's BDP-S300 Blu-ray player now less than a PS3
Prices on next-gen optical HD players continue to plummet today with Sony's announced price drop on their new BDP-S300 Blu-ray Disc player. At $499 list, it's now priced for $100 less than the Playstation 3 which currently reigns supreme as the cheapest (and noisiest) BD player on the market. In fact, the move might even cannibalize PS3 sales now that BD buffs have a cheaper source for HDMI 1.3 playback from a unit offering a traditional remote control and A/V stylings. It's still $100 $200 or so more than Toshiba's cheapest HD DVD player which recently shed a Benjamin in time for Father's Day. But hey Sony, Toshiba... it's not the price that's holding back interest. It's the uncertainty you've created by launching two essentially equal but incompatible formats onto the world of consumer electronics. If you don't get your houses in order soon, your problems won't be with each other. Rather, it'll be be those traditional and not-so-traditional CE players offering set top boxes with big disks and HD video on demand that form the roots of your demise.

















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Kevin Murphy @ Jun 4th 2007 4:27AM
Paper price drop on paper release. And still $299 more than what everyone is selling the HDA2 for. And $300 more than some.... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856268
SimbaDogg @ Jun 4th 2007 4:39AM
wow...this is a HUUUUUUGE price drop. if this hits by july/august...that'll be a 50% drop in less than 10 months.
MK24ever @ Jun 4th 2007 6:45AM
" it's now priced for $100 less than the Playstation 3 which currently reigns supreme as the cheapest (and noisiest) BD player on the market"
Noisiest?? You sure are a retard! The PS3 is super silent!
Thomas Ricker @ Jun 4th 2007 10:01AM
Mk24ever,
It is absolutely the noisiest BD player on the market. Google it if you can't compare side by side.
Thomas
Richard @ Jun 4th 2007 6:47AM
PS3 is the noisiest BD player? I had no idea. I can't hear it over the
roar of my Sony front projector.
But, seriously, the PS3 is very quiet.
Mak @ Jun 4th 2007 8:46AM
What utter nonense this site is. My PS3 is silent. I have to put my ear upto it to hear the fan. There is no disc noise whatsoever, and this is a Euro PAL PS3.
Still to counter your obvious HD-DVD bias, let talk about boot up times.
Toshiba HD-A2 = 2 minutes
PS2 = 17 seconds
BDP-S300 = Unknown, but likely to be similar..
LOL, I can put a disk on a HD-AS, go for a slash, microwave the popcorn, and the movie will have still not started... To put it another way. HD-A2 bootup time == 15% of the movie length....
Mak @ Jun 4th 2007 11:05AM
Sorry, meant to type PS3 (obviously). And yes, load times are very close to 2 minutes, (40 secs to boot up, another 30-40 before the movie starts). Several reviews have already timed this. I apologise if I was 20 secs or so over-harsh. But the sad fact is, PS3 will boot a Blu-Ray movie, from cold (off) in 17 seconds.....
paloooz @ Jun 4th 2007 3:54PM
So movies are only 13 minutes 20 seconds long?
Steve @ Jun 4th 2007 9:04AM
The PS3 is quiet for a games machine but i think you'll find it's noisier than most fairly decent stand alone players.
It looks to me like Sony is puting the PS3 on hold and trying to win with blu-ray first, hoping to revive the games machine once blu-ray is dominant.
Personally i don't think either format will take off soon enough and the PS3 may be left too far behind to ever catch up.
Steve @ Jun 4th 2007 9:20AM
Mak
Your ps2 is hardly a good comparison, it's a completely different machine with a 4x dvd drive, that's why the xbox 360 loading times are lower and why PS3 gives you the option to install 3-4 gigs of game data to reduce loading time.
LOL, I can go for a slash, microwave the popcorn, and watch a movie by the time it takes a fanboy's brain to boot up.
MK24ever @ Jun 4th 2007 9:26AM
@ STEVE
He meant PS3 you fool!
ipacmsm @ Jun 4th 2007 9:44AM
You also have to remember, the A2 does not have 1080P, the only HD-DVD player that does 1080P is the A20, which is also $499 so you cant even, say HD-DVD is cheaper when it isn't.
Liqwid @ Jun 4th 2007 9:57AM
Plug the Xbox 360 HD DVD player attachment into the Xbox360 and use a VGA cable and you have 1080p. The attachment is only $199 (cheaper at some places) and can even be used on a PC.
And you cannot combine the cost of having bought the Xbox360 and player as most people usually buy the attachment later.
Kevin Murphy @ Jun 4th 2007 12:08PM
1080p? Who cares? Most every current HD owner has a 720p plasma or 1080i projection set. And even with a 1080p set, if it doesn't accept 1080p/24fps, there's no real difference except transfer rate -- doesn't matter where you do the pull-down. So, for 99% of HDTV owners, 1080p DVD is a marketing ploy and nothing more.
And anyway, the Toshiba sells for $335, no tax, not shipping from Amazon today. Which is better than $499 Real Soon Now.
Paper launches are bad enough, but paper prices on paper launches really take the cake. The only 2nd generation player on the market right now is the Samsung BDP-1200 at $560 or so.
Steve @ Jun 4th 2007 9:53AM
MK24ever
Either he is talking about a PS2 and your the fool, or he meant to say PS3 in which case he's the fool because the PS3 is not that quick. Anyway i've spent far too much of my time talking to fanboys today so goodbye.
MK24ever @ Jun 4th 2007 10:18AM
The word "noisiest" is just not adequated, PS3 is super quiet (google if if you want. The solo thing you want with this sensacionalist article it to bash even more Sony's PS3. I can't hear my PS3 in a silent room, and it is impossible to hear whatever it is coming from the PS3 during a film playback, maybe you have ears of an Elefant and we don't. Playstation 3 is mainly a GAME CONSOLE, it don't have to be as good as other BluRay players (actually it is one of the bests), so this article just makes no sence.
tranzparentl @ Jun 4th 2007 10:12AM
I wonder how this is gonna effect PS3 sales. Looks like people aren't going to be buying it as solely a movie player anymore.
Kenny @ Jun 4th 2007 10:14AM
@ ipacmsm
Stop being silly. The Xbox 360 add-on, Toshiba XA1, Toshiba HD-A20, and the Toshiba HD-XA2 are all capable of 1080P. If you didn't know, educate yourself before spreading falsehoods.
@ Mak
Which Toshiba HD-A2 has a 2 minute load time? Are you deliberately being silly? The A-2 and A-20 have about a 30-40 second "boot" time, but disk loading times are around 15 seconds. Go out to a local electronics store and see for yourself.
Ekene Okpareke @ Jun 4th 2007 10:16AM
@ ipacmsm
Oh...and I bought my A-20 for $380.
Thomas Ricker @ Jun 4th 2007 10:32AM
MK24ever,
This is EngadgetHD... decibels, pixels, and other fine levels of minutiae are important.
Thomas
TJ @ Jun 4th 2007 10:32AM
The President of Sony USA said this could be as low as $299-399 by Xmas. I know what I'll be getting my fiancee.
ipacmsm @ Jun 4th 2007 10:42AM
I wasn't talking about what the players are selling at online, I was relating to the MSRP of the players.
Steve @ Jun 4th 2007 10:49AM
After remembering seeing MK24ever's comments somewhere else a quick google led me to his Gamespot profile where his "unbiased" reviews included
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) 10 out of 10
Forza Motorsport 2 (X360) 1 out of 10
There is a possibility that there's another sad fanboy called MK24ever posting on gamespot but i'm willing to bet from your comments that you're the same one.
Terry @ Jun 4th 2007 11:18AM
Too bad, Sony's new player is obsolete before it's even sold. It doesn't even support the October 31 mandate of new mandatory features. Pathetic. No thanks, Sony can keep it.
andy @ Jun 4th 2007 11:54AM
No way would I buy a new player that doesn't have all of the features a TRUE *BRD* player is supposed to have.
I have a 1366x768 plasma so 720p is fine by me as long as everything on every disc now and into the future works.
I don't have either, and don't care which one wins, but I've got to say that there's no way I'm buying a player that already doesn't support the features of the movies being released.
1. I want every feature the media has to offer.
2. I'll pay what I have to get #1, but it better be cheap or I'll wait.
3. I'll bet there are a lot of me's out there.
Kevin Murphy @ Jun 4th 2007 12:16PM
That last should read:
"And anyway, the Toshiba HD-A20 sells for $335, no tax, no shipping from Amazon today. Which is better than $499 Real Soon Now."
By the way, for those that project future prices and compare them to the competition's current prices, what makes you think that the competition will stand still? By the time that these mythical $399 BD players come out, HD DVD players could well be at $199. After all, there are stores selling the HD-A2 for $199 TODAY.
SapphireShark @ Jun 4th 2007 12:30PM
Really... and I always thought I needed an Xbox360 to use the Xbox360's HD-DVD player on TV, based on your comment, I guess I can connect the Xbox360's directly to my TV. Wow, for only $200... What an investment. I guess I do not have to buy an Xbox360 anymore.
BTW, I have the PS3 and an Xbox360; however, I will never buy a HD-DVD player, never.
Blu-Ray moves owned 43 and HD-DVD 0.
Jeff N. @ Jun 4th 2007 1:01PM
For $499 I may try out one of these players. I wonder how well it plays back Standard DVD's? If it does a good job of that I don't really see a downside of buying this player.
Alex @ Jun 4th 2007 3:58PM
yah they keep lowering prices of the players so they can keep raising prices of (buggy) discs.
Dylan Neild @ Jun 4th 2007 4:03PM
@Terry: There is nothing to indicate that this player isn't profile 1.1 compatible. Indeed, it probably is. The BD-P1200 is upgradeable to 1.1 (so says Samsung), for example. Most 2G players right now are being made with 1.1 in mind.
Thanks for spreading completely baseless FUD though.
Jeff N. @ Jun 11th 2007 2:02PM
Does anyone know when the Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray player will be released? At $499 it's worth taking a look at.
Jeff N. @ Jun 11th 2007 2:10PM
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665088000&XID=O:sony%20bdp%20s300:dg_bluray_gglsrch
I see the new Sony Blue-ray player is in stock on it's website. So I guess it is offically released.
Shane Hunter @ Jul 14th 2007 5:13PM
Personally I think that HD DVD is going to be the winner just because ALL of the features of EVERY HD DVD disk have worked on EVERY HD DVD player since launch.
Jon M @ Jan 9th 2008 5:25AM
Okay, let me get this straight. Most of you are saying the PS3 is the best bet for the money right now. My wife just bought me the Sony BDP-S300 for Xmas but said I could exchange it for the PS3 if I want. What would you guys do. Which is better. How is the sound on the PS3. I have 5.1 surround in my livingroom, will it effect that. Feedback please... thx, J