Rob, I would like this info to be confirmed really but you have to understand this is how business works in general. If wal-mart confirmed this, they would lose money. Simple as that. Pay attention what Wal-mart spokesperson said
"When asked to comment specifically on a statement appearing on Fuh Yuan's site, which implies the retailer is at least interested in ordering the players, the spokesperson said she could not comment on or disclose Wal-Mart's internal business with suppliers and our orders."
So how is she confirming that the rest of the stuff is untrue? Something is not logical here, don't you agree?
Second, I really don't have the energy to go into discussion why Blu-Ray is more expensive to make, but it simply is and Sony has a LONG way to go (meaning selling a lot of units) to be able to get out with sub $400 BD player.
The links you posted are saying nothing really. Shiroishi Semiconductor Inc is just throwing numbers how much laser diodes they made since 1986 and also it says that it has the capacity to manufacture blue diodes at certain price point and quantity, whether they will get orders or not is not known.
What you are talking about cheap Blu-Ray players and them being able to produce $50-$75 BD players just boggles my mind really. Don't you think we would see players like that by now? At least cheaper..second Sony would be actually making money on PS3 instead of losing an arm and a leg. You are just speculating Rob.
Now, bare with me, I'm not saying that AVS Forum guys are dead on accurate, but I do believe this deal is going to happen and Wal-mart announcement is just business tactic. After all we will see by October now won't we.
Here's what I think will happen. Wal-mart will get first several thousand units probably around October, sell them at $299 to test out waters. If they see that units are going for that price well, they will probably keep it at $299 or go with $249 discount. But if the units start off slow before the rest of the players are completed I'm pretty sure they will sell them for $199, even possibly $179.
It's simple, these HD-DVD players should be around $50 a piece. 2million units/100 million = $50 a piece. Of course we don't know full quantities yet and delivery times and overall order details, but knowing that HD-DVD player is $50 in manufacturing says GOOD THINGS. It means that they can sell those units for $100-$150 and still have profit.
Onkyo thing you mentioned is quite normal. You do realize that as long as companies are NEUTRAL, HD-DVD wins. Onkyo is just making a business move. They saw Samsung, LG and others coming out with dual format players and they are thinking, hey why don't we just make it dual, make one unit and sell that and make clean profit. No comparison there. I'll tell you one thing, if Fox goes neutral it's pretty much over for Blu-Ray, mark my words.
Read AVS Forums, you will see more up-to-date information from the community there as a lot of them actually work for one side or the other and are actually involved more in this war then regular Joe.
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Nfinity @ Apr 27th 2007 2:23AM
Rob, I would like this info to be confirmed really but you have to understand this is how business works in general. If wal-mart confirmed this, they would lose money. Simple as that. Pay attention what Wal-mart spokesperson said
"When asked to comment specifically on a statement appearing on Fuh Yuan's site, which implies the retailer is at least interested in ordering the players, the spokesperson said she could not comment on or disclose Wal-Mart's internal business with suppliers and our orders."
So how is she confirming that the rest of the stuff is untrue? Something is not logical here, don't you agree?
Second, I really don't have the energy to go into discussion why Blu-Ray is more expensive to make, but it simply is and Sony has a LONG way to go (meaning selling a lot of units) to be able to get out with sub $400 BD player.
The links you posted are saying nothing really. Shiroishi Semiconductor Inc is just throwing numbers how much laser diodes they made since 1986 and also it says that it has the capacity to manufacture blue diodes at certain price point and quantity, whether they will get orders or not is not known.
What you are talking about cheap Blu-Ray players and them being able to produce $50-$75 BD players just boggles my mind really. Don't you think we would see players like that by now? At least cheaper..second Sony would be actually making money on PS3 instead of losing an arm and a leg. You are just speculating Rob.
Now, bare with me, I'm not saying that AVS Forum guys are dead on accurate, but I do believe this deal is going to happen and Wal-mart announcement is just business tactic. After all we will see by October now won't we.
Here's what I think will happen. Wal-mart will get first several thousand units probably around October, sell them at $299 to test out waters. If they see that units are going for that price well, they will probably keep it at $299 or go with $249 discount. But if the units start off slow before the rest of the players are completed I'm pretty sure they will sell them for $199, even possibly $179.
It's simple, these HD-DVD players should be around $50 a piece. 2million units/100 million = $50 a piece. Of course we don't know full quantities yet and delivery times and overall order details, but knowing that HD-DVD player is $50 in manufacturing says GOOD THINGS. It means that they can sell those units for $100-$150 and still have profit.
Onkyo thing you mentioned is quite normal. You do realize that as long as companies are NEUTRAL, HD-DVD wins. Onkyo is just making a business move. They saw Samsung, LG and others coming out with dual format players and they are thinking, hey why don't we just make it dual, make one unit and sell that and make clean profit. No comparison there. I'll tell you one thing, if Fox goes neutral it's pretty much over for Blu-Ray, mark my words.
Read AVS Forums, you will see more up-to-date information from the community there as a lot of them actually work for one side or the other and are actually involved more in this war then regular Joe.