http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/ Engadget HD Comments for http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 24th 2007 5:03PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/
Now imagine where we would have been had the studios just supported the format that was ready to replace DVD. Blu-ray wasn't ready and Sony led the biggest electronics filibuster in the history of consumer electronics. ]]>Mar 24th 2007 5:19PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 24th 2007 6:16PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494177]]>Mar 24th 2007 6:31PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 24th 2007 11:01PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/
Again though, as someone who has both formats, I really haven't been impressed enough with HDi to make me feel like its absolutely vital for either format.]]>Mar 25th 2007 12:07AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 1:02AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 8:37AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 8:23AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 10:43AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 12:14PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 1:07PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 25th 2007 9:02PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 26th 2007 7:16AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Mar 26th 2007 9:27AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://ps3.ign.com/articles/775/775342p1.html) Get a grip on reality folks and do a little real research in stead of listening to this drivel.]]>Mar 26th 2007 10:25AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/"256MB of persistent memory is simply 256Gb of your hard drive"

Ever had a computer that ran out of ram and used it's swap file for additional ram? The performance is like crap. That is the same thing as what you are suggesting.

I don't care who wins the format war, but if the Blu-Ray group had their act together, this would not even be an issue.
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Further, the features which become mandatory on new players released post-October primarily only affect PiP (which can be done without them, as shown by The Descent). There are all kinds of other interactivity which aren't affected, and Blu-ray's interactivity is far more capable than HD DVD's (though current titles haven't even scratched the surface yet).

MikesOnline, using the hard drive for A/V storage this isn't the same as virtual memory. The spec just requires a place to store data - the hard drive will provide no speed penalty compared to using flash memory. HD DVD only requires 128MB of storage, enough for only a few minutes of HD video. Blu-ray's requirement for 1GB for network-connected players at least offers enough space to do something meaningful...

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First you are confusing system memory with persistent memory. Persistent memory is stuff like hard drives and flash drives. It doesn't need to be fast, just store stuff while the power is off.

Secondly, I found a lovly little quote regarding the ps3:

"# Since the standards for BD-ROM such as BDMV and BD-J were delayed, particular player functions were developed later while 2 years has already passed for the development of software decoding function for codecs such as H.264.
# H.264 decoding itself was not very difficult for Cell with moderate optimization and they could play a movie in realtime at the first try unlike very difficult SACD optimization. However, because they began the development without knowing the final Blu-ray standard, they set the goal very high for decoding 2 full HD H.264 streams at 40Mbps simultaneously. Besides the clockspeed of the devkit was lower than the final product which made the development difficult. The current decoder can decode full HD H.264 with 3 SPEs."

The PS3 can handle 2 40Mbps streams. Seeing as the fastest full screen data rate I've witnessed was on average 18Mbps, the PS3 can easily handle the aditional video with out issues. ]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:46PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=36188]]>Apr 4th 2007 9:51PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/Apr 16th 2007 11:49AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/
A silly tactic to those of us who are knowledgeable, but I wonder if it will have an effect for the majority of people who are not.]]>Jun 3rd 2007 2:51AM