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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
IseWise @ Nov 19th 2006 2:42AM
"..potential score for Blu-ray is not everyone that buys a PS3 is buying it with movie playback as the primary use, its a game machine first and foremost."
They don't have to watch movies for it to be a score for the Blu-camp, all the games are on Blu-ray. Blu-Ray is a format not restricted to just movie content.
People don't have to watch a single Blu-Ray movie on their PS3. But all the games for the PS3 are on Blu-Ray discs. Buying Blu-Ray dics = score for the Blu-Ray camp.
"...turn a profit or are so delusional that they must be the first to have the latest GAME machine."
So being a fan of games and wanting to play new games is being delusional? Sure alot of PS3's being sold on ebay, but guess what, someone will eventually end up w/ a PS3, either at $599 or $3,500.
And actually the Xbox HD DVD drives are shipping.
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802558
I know all you guys have probably pegged me as a Sony fanboy, but I own a Xbox 360 that I bought at launch and love it. Like I originally said in my first post in, I just cant think that the HD DVD group is happy about PS3 being sold out around the world. The Playstation 3 is the first device to really represent Blu-Ray as a FORMAT. It represents one of the most common things a format does, a medium to storage data, either it be a game or a movie. And afterall its called a Format War not a Movie Format War, although the movie studios hold the most weight in war, selling thousands of PS3's and Blu-Ray disc has got to be good move. If you were a studio, do you release your movie on a format that has a small share in the market or a large share in the market. The PS3 with out a doubt will continue to sell out and therefore be creating a big share in the market for Blu-Ray. And that really what its all about, appealing to the majority.
pliepl @ Nov 19th 2006 11:34AM
IseWise,
They don't have to watch movies for it to be a score for the Blu-camp, all the games are on Blu-ray. Blu-Ray is a format not restricted to just movie content.
People don't have to watch a single Blu-Ray movie on their PS3. But all the games for the PS3 are on Blu-Ray discs. Buying Blu-Ray dics = score for the Blu-Ray camp.
When it comes to the next movie format it is very relevant. The core of the debate is movie playback. Sonys decision to use the Blu-ray format for PS3 games isnt relevant. Thats the equivalent of saying that since Microsoft decided to published using DVDs, the X360 games adds to the overall DVD movie count for each title. Obviously the games wont work on regular DVD players.
Jerry (above) makes many good points.
So being a fan of games and wanting to play new games is being delusional? Sure alot of PS3's being sold on ebay, but guess what, someone will eventually end up w/ a PS3, either at $599 or $3,500.
Being a fan of games and wanting to play new games isnt delusional, though what some of those fanatics were doing on launch day and the days and week coming up to is.
The ones who waited in line to buy it for resale purposes, I can actually understand their reasoning. On the other hand, the ones who did and were intending to keep theirs or the ones who bought theirs from a resale at 3-4+ times the retail, thats something I dont understand. Considering the titles released on launch, thats seems like blind faith and submission to propaganda and hype.
And actually the Xbox HD DVD drives are shipping.
Good, now lets see that data pertaining to your reasoning for saying that PS3 sales are killing the sale of the HDDVD add on.
I know all you guys have probably pegged me as a Sony fanboy, but I own a Xbox 360 that I bought at launch and love it. Like I originally said in my first post in, I just cant think that the HD DVD group is happy about PS3 being sold out around the world. The Playstation 3 is the first device to really represent Blu-Ray as a FORMAT. It represents one of the most common things a format does, a medium to storage data, either it be a game or a movie. And afterall its called a Format War not a Movie Format War, although the movie studios hold the most weight in war, selling thousands of PS3's and Blu-Ray disc has got to be good move. If you were a studio, do you release your movie on a format that has a small share in the market or a large share in the market.
The PS3 has yet to prove itself. PS3 sales wont help Blu-ray unless it gives a significant boost with blu-ray movies, more so than the X360 drive will for HDDVD movies. Otherwise its a draw or worst for PS3s contribution to Blu-ray. Everyone on the Blu-ray side seems to have omitted the existence of HDDVD drive. It exists and is in direct competition with the PS3s Blu-ray playback feature.
Movie studios will look at movie sales more so than the sales of consoles. If movies are sitting on the shelves (regardless of how many consoles are out there), it doesnt help. Lets not forget that when this format war began, only one studio intended to release on HDDVD, look at where we are today. More and more studios are deciding that its in their best interest to support both because they can see where the money is; I dont blame them.
The site you posted above already shows that the Wii console sales have already surpassed those of the PS3. Should be an interesting war on the console end.
The PS3 with out a doubt will continue to sell out and therefore be creating a big share in the market for Blu-Ray. And that really what its all about, appealing to the majority.
Only the users who chose to actively utilize their PS3 as a movie playback device can be considered adding to the market for Blu-ray movies. I would hardly consider that a majority. As far as the movie format is concerned, the HDDVD format appeals more so to the majority than the Blu-ray format. If you consider the entry price.