http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/ Engadget HD Comments for Good news for TiVo investors - bad news for Dish Network DVR users - UPDATE 2 http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 11:41AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/
We will see what happens.

Blackberry case anyone?]]>Aug 18th 2006 11:49AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 11:55AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 12:05PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 12:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 12:58PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/
This scares me...Ben/Matt/HDBeat guys...does this affect me/the HD-DVR?]]>Aug 18th 2006 1:22PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 1:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 4:59PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/
What I'm not clear on are the details. Supposedly this affects some of the DVRs, not necessarily all. I'm not sure which, but I also heard only the older ones (which is great, beacause I JUST got a 622). Also Echostar is saying they are working on software changes to prevent this infringement from happening again. What are those changes and what will they do to the funcionality of the 622, if anything?

I'm crossing my fingers but am fairly confident nothing serious will happen to the end users.]]>Aug 18th 2006 7:06PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 18th 2006 7:17PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 19th 2006 9:16AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/
Tivo was the first company to offer a HD DVR (via DirecTV). They tried for several years to work a deal with Dish, but instead Dish pushed them aside and "borrowed" their technology. Granted, it has taken Tivo a long time to deliver on the stand alone HD DVR, but I attribute that to the cable companies. If they would have gotten off of their asses and supported Cable Card then Tivo would have launched the Series 3 ages ago. Considering that Tivo is currently being offer by DirectTV (#1 satellite provider), and Comcast (#1 cable provider), I'd say that they have done pretty well marketing their product. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that hasn't heard of a Tivo.

When the Series 3 Tivo is launched this fall, it will be by far the most fully featured DVR on the market.
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If Tivo pulls the plug, they will have made an enemy out of me, and the 12 million other folks out there who are affected.

Dish didn't deal with Tivo because their greed for the $15/month service fee was outragous, and Dish knew it. They only charge $6/month for their service.]]>Aug 20th 2006 12:14AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 20th 2006 10:43PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/Aug 21st 2006 10:12PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/You are exactly right, if Dish and everyone else would have just licensed TiVo technology instead of Copying it than this would have never happend and all the consumers would have a better product and we wouldn't have to worry about our DVRs being turned off.]]>Aug 22nd 2006 11:03AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=68854&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=842925

I believe this model is safe.

According to http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_103.html, these models are definitely affected: "DP-501, DP-508, DP-510, DP-721, DP-921, DP-522, DP-625, DP-942, and all EchoStar DVRs that are not more than colorably different from any of these products"
]]>Aug 22nd 2006 1:37PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/I chose DN over DTV years ago because DTV's compression scheme was insufficient for the allotted bandwidth. Translation: DTV used to suffer from heavy pixelization during high activity/movement scenes. Large square chunks of video goop instead of a clean, flowing picture.
Let's hope they get it worked out!]]>Aug 24th 2006 10:07AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/IF DIRECTV ASSUMES OWNERSHIP OF DISHNET, THE DVRS WOULD NOT EVEN BLINK OFF FOR A SECOND.
DO WE SEE A LOGICAL RESOLUTION THAT IS ALREADY IN THE MAKING?
I THINK SO.

...A NEWSCORP EMPLOYEE...]]>Aug 26th 2006 9:34PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/18/good-news-for-tivo-investors-bad-news-for-dish-network-dvr-use/
... NEWSCORP EMPLOYEE...]]>Aug 26th 2006 9:34PM