HD DVD review

I decided some time ago that I was going to wait for Blu-Ray since I believe that in the end it will win, but on Friday when others started to discuss their thoughts about picking up a HD-DVD players I decided I had to have one. I went to Best Buy yesterday, but like many others I was not able to buy the movies. I went back today and bought the first of three units that the Lakeland Best Buy received. I also picked up The Last Samurai and Serenity, as well as the DVD versions for comparison.

Best Buy had the HD-DVD players on a shelf near the DVD players and TiVo's. The movies were right above the player but I didn't see a demo. I didn't look very hard because I knew I was already going to buy one. I grabbed two movies and the huge box and headed to the counter. The guy in front of me in line was buying a super cheap DVD player and I found it ironic that I was buying the most expensive player. A few employees made comments about the fact that I was an early adopter which I thought was odd especially because I felt like they were calling me brave.

When I got home and unpacked the player, I couldn't get over the size of the box or the size of the player. I connected the player via component and Toslink using the cables that my DVD player was using. After going through the setup I got stuck and I hate to admit it but it took me and my friend Frankie five minutes to figure out where the setup button was. After consulting the manual I found it under the sliding door and I was ready to start enjoying HD movies. I loaded an HD-DVD into the player and found it interesting that the drive was obviously a standard PC drive with a door covering the sliding tray. The remote is just like the player; big, but works well enough. The player takes a little time to turn on but not intolerable and the menus are also not super quick, but easily faster than my HD TiVo.

The interactive menus are everything I remember from CES. They are pretty quick and overlay over the video. They might be the most noticeable difference to some people over regular DVD. It is easy to change to a scene or change settings mid movie without having to wait for the clunky DVD menu's that we have all grown to live with over the years. It is very easy to jump chapters or see where you are on a time line like many DVR's. You can even mark your favorite places in the movie so you can go straight to them later. The special features were about the same as a regular DVD and just as disappointing because they were all SD which is not a surprise, but still disappointing.

I connected the Toslink cable to my Pioneer Elite VSX-33tx receiver and the sound was great as expected. The movies were both Dolby Digital Plus, but are detected as DTS on my receiver. I thought might be a problem with my receiver, but Warren indicated that he witnessed the same thing. I had the output set to bit-stream which seems to be the correct setting. I have not tried the multichannel outputs yet, but I plan to and will report back.

The picture quality is excellent, with NO noticeable artifacts, great colors and depth. It isn't 100% apparent at first, but it is noticeable after popping in the DVD versions of the same movie on the same player. Since I am connected it via component to my Mitsubishi ws55813 I am unable to try out the up-conversion capabilities of the player, but I don't think it would look that much better since my TV displays both 480p and 1080i natively. I have never been a big fan of up-converters so it may just be me. I had the output set to 1080i and my TV had no problem displaying the image with no problems with anything including geometry. When doing a side by side comparison between the two formats it is actually pretty amazing to see how much better the color is and how everything just looks focused especially scenes shot from a distance. As good as the movies looked it didn't look that much better than HBO-HD except for a few issues with HBO, which not everyone will recognize. It actually looks alot like the HD movie channels, except that the sound is much more dynamic and not narrow like alot of DD sound tracks on cable or satellite. The movies are not cropped, cropped movies drive me nuts. There are no compression artifacts and no signs of digital compression even during the fire scene of The Last Samurai. The dark scenes are where HD-DVD really shines, the detail without artifacts is unbelievable, especially compared to DVD which almost looks grey in comparison. I am not sure how many people will notice this since most newer HDTVs don't do well with blacks.

It is very enjoyable to watch a movie without any annoyances, which is something I have not been able to do since I bought my HDTV. As great as HD is, it has a way of bringing out the worst in the content you watch on it; If there are imperfections you can see them. I am very excited and hope that movies continue to be released, my biggest fear is that some people won't be able to tell the difference (they don't know what to look for) or decide that DVD is good enough. I think HD-DVD is currently the reference standard and I look forward to Blu-Ray because I believe they will have a better selection of movies. I also can't wait to see what HD Video looks like via HD-DVD, this typically gives most people that WOW effect we have came to love from HD.net and DiscoveryHD.
Bottom line is that HD-DVD is great, but will you notice? If you can't tell the difference between DVD's and HBO HD than you might be just as well off with a upconverting DVD player. If you never noticed HBO-HD's cropped movies, non-dynamic sound and compression artifacts you may be better off sticking with HBO-HD. If you do notice these annoyances you won't be disappointed with HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. The only way I will return it, is if the studios don't deliver with the titles.
**Edit** Added TVs model number and resolution capabilities for clarity, due to comments.





















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Steve @ Apr 19th 2006 9:51AM
It seems as though you only have a 480p TV, how are you testing out a HD-DVD player with a NON-HDTV and why would you be setting the output to 1080i if you only have a 480p TV? Hopefully I am missing something.
Hans Gruber @ Apr 19th 2006 9:52AM
So if it's a standard PC drive who will be the first to try it in a PC? ;)
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 19th 2006 9:55AM
Steve,
I have a Mitsubishi WS55813 which nativly displays 1080i and 480p.
Durk @ Apr 19th 2006 9:57AM
Thank you for the review. I have some questions:
1. What type of tv did you use?
2. HD DVD can only goto 1080i? What about 1080p?
3. Can you compare DVD vs HD DVD on a 1080p tv?
4. I thought the new audio standard was going to be 7.1. Does the movie support this?
Have a great day.
Wayne @ Apr 19th 2006 9:58AM
Ben, thanks for the early review.
How is the HD-DVD player as a standard DVD player? Are there any artifacts or compression issues? In your opinion does it hold up as a standard DVD player, or would early adopters be better hanging on to their existing DVD players?
Scott J. @ Apr 19th 2006 10:02AM
You say "my TV natively displays 480p" -- what kind of TV are you using? Unless it's a CRT (with multiple scan rates), or I'm missing something, a TV can't be native 480p *and* HD.
I'm sure that I'm misunderstanding something, because I find it hard to believe that anyone would try to seriously evaluate HD using a set incapable of anything better than 480p.
Dave Zatz @ Apr 19th 2006 10:02AM
Cool - I'm glad someone I trust has gotten some hand's on time with the unit. I think I'll stick with my current setup until prices drop 50% or so. I'd be happy if the case size was also reduced 50%. ;)
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 19th 2006 10:04AM
Wayne,
I have not spent that much time watching standard DVD's but the 5 minutes I did looked great, at least as good as my old DVD player,but I once again I only watched it for 5 minutes. It worked just like a DVD player. So if you are in need of a new DVD player it may be a good way to go.
LH @ Apr 19th 2006 10:05AM
The DTS thing isn't a bug. The player decodes the original DD+ audio and mixes it with content from menus in pcm. If you use the analog outs or the hdmi interface to carry your audio to receiver, you'll get this pcm content which is something like 5.1 48 khz / 24 bit with DPL2. The s/pdif / toslink hasn't got enough bandwith for this and thus the player encodes this to DTS @ 1.5 mbps to get it fit the s/pdif connection.
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 19th 2006 10:13AM
Durk,
1. What type of tv did you use?
Mitsubishi WS55813
2. HD DVD can only goto 1080i? What about 1080p?
I did not see a option for 1080p and I don't think it does it, maybe a firmware update can change that down the road.
3. Can you compare DVD vs HD DVD on a 1080p tv?
Nope, only on my 1080i TV.
4. I thought the new audio standard was going to be 7.1. Does the movie support this?
My reciever doesn't support 7.1 so even if it didn't I wouldn't be able to tell you. The sound was good.
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 19th 2006 10:15AM
LH,
Thanks for the explaination. I assume I can get better results from using the multi-channel analoge output then?
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 19th 2006 10:16AM
Scott,
Yes my TV is a CRT RPTV, a 2003 Mitsubishi Diamond model WS55813. Which has been ISF calibrated for both 480p and 1080i.
Peter S... @ Apr 19th 2006 10:58AM
Ben,
Will this unit output HD thru its component outputs? I currently run everything through a video processor and into my Panasonic commercial plasma at its native resolution via RGB and don't want to change that. I've heard that the media paranoids were planning to prevent this.
rothgar @ Apr 19th 2006 11:21AM
I sure wish I could buy a HD-DVD player as a tax write off!
And I am with you, Blue ray is still going to win :)
LH @ Apr 19th 2006 11:39AM
>Thanks for the explaination. I assume I can get better results from using the multi-channel analoge output then?
I'm under that impression. Though the perfect solution would be buyinga receiver which allows you to hook it up with hdmi and use the digital uncmpressed pcm signal instead of either using an analog or recompressed version.
Dan @ Apr 19th 2006 12:40PM
Oh man... I want one now Ben... thanks for the review. :) Now just to convince the wife ;)
Warren @ Apr 19th 2006 6:50PM
Hey Ben, excellent question "But will they notice". I noticed that the players are sold out in Tampa and many other markets as well. I hope this isn't another XBox 360 fiasco, as it seems that the market has taken to this "underdog" technology. Count me as still in the "I just don't get Blu-ray" camp.
lotech @ Apr 20th 2006 4:56AM
Any chance of a photo of the remote?
missinglink @ Apr 20th 2006 5:44AM
I hope I missed something otherwise this is probably one of the most flawed reviews I've ever read.How can you review an HD-DVDs performance on a EDTV!?
B4 anyone starts throwing insults or numbers around please check: http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1544/The-Facts-and-Fiction-of-1080p/p1/
Richard Lawler @ Apr 20th 2006 7:23AM
Um, for all those not missing links, Ben noted above he has a 1080i HDTV.
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 20th 2006 7:49AM
missinglink #19
Not only was it not on a EDTV, I actually specified the brand and model of the TV in the comments. I do agree that I should have specified that in the review.
CRT TVs can produce more than one native resolution, that is one of their many benifits over the newer technologies.
jack johnson @ Apr 20th 2006 3:32PM
Confused on your review that you set up here. For many months HD-DVD has been saying it will downgrade the resolution to 960?40 if you use a none compliant HDCP connection. Has to be dvi or hdmi that is hdcp compliant. So component wont give you hd for the hd-dvd. So how is this review a legit review.
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6300812.html
the latest buzz is that Blueray(at least ps3) will not downgrade
Richard Lawler @ Apr 20th 2006 3:49PM
Jack, AACS and ICT are present on blu-ray and HD-DVD. This is no rumor, it is a fact.
ICT is not enabled on any of the currently available HD-DVD discs, and no movie producer has announced that they will use it yet on Blu-ray or HD-DVD.
Eric @ Apr 20th 2006 8:18PM
Very nice review. It's fairly obvious that HD will only matter to those with money to spend on quality HD monitors/tv.
This could be a "laser disc" type market for a while to come. Laser Disc never caught on, but DVD became the hottest consumer product in history for several reasons:
1) smaller format than VHS
2) better quality than VHS
3) all studios on board with one DVD format
4) DVD-ROMS
5) Menu system - fast to forward/never have to rewind
Unfortunately, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray do not provide a big enough improvement over DVD's to most consumers. Most people are okay (for the next several years) watching their old TV sets and monitors with DVD's.
As far as the "HD format war" goes, I think HD-DVD is going to do remarkably well for several reasons:
1) First out of the gate
2) HD-DVD roms
3) XBox support
4) Vastly Cheaper
The one thing going AGAINST the HD-DVD format is the studio support, especially from Sony's inventory. However, there is one thing most people are overlooking here that will help HD-DVD overcome this:
Bootlegging.
How hard will it be for a bootlegger to buy a Blu-Ray DVD, rip it, convert it to HD-DVD, and sell them on the black/foreign market?
Very, very easy. Consumers will have the cheaper HD-DVD players, they'll also have HD-DVD-ROM drives on their PC's, and they'll be able to buy almost any movie in HD-DVD format for a cheaper price than Blu-Ray.
Jamie Farnham @ Apr 23rd 2006 9:52AM
I also could not wait. Had to take the jump to hd-dvd. I have it hooked up via hdmi to a sharp aquos and
I love it. Need more titles but otherwise works great. I have it set to 720p.
Jamie Farnham @ Apr 23rd 2006 9:55AM
Also reading comments about who will win. I vote hd dvd and not because I bought one. As simple as it seems they have the name. also, the price point.
Jon Gales @ Apr 26th 2006 9:43PM
"The player takes a little time to turn on but not intolerable and the menus are also not super quick, but easily faster than my HD TiVo. "
HD Tivo? Have you been holding out on us? I want one!
Robert G. Raynor, Jr. @ Apr 27th 2006 8:01PM
How can you get high def on your new HD-DVD using component output when the software (movie) will only down convert compenent video to 480p?
Ed note: This individual is incorrect, please check the previous comments to find out information regarding component output on this player. Thank you.
Ben Drawbaugh @ Apr 27th 2006 10:51PM
Robert,
the down convert is a option to the studios and they don't exercise that option on any of the current HD-DVD available.
KBoogie @ Apr 30th 2006 7:24PM
I am a big Blu-ray fan but believe HD-DVD will be the winner in the format war for one simple reason, name. Enthusiast can only provide so much success for a consumer product. When all is said and done, the success of a consumer product is tied to the ability to attract interest from the masses. When marketing to the masses you need to have a product name which is obvious as to what it does. The name HD-DVD clearly communicates what the product does / is. The name Blu-ray leaves the average consumer wondering what the product does. For this reason and this reason alone I believe HD-DVD will be the winner in the format wars.
Before you start flaming me, keep in mind I am a fan of Blu-ray and want Blu-ray to win the format war. I believe Blu-ray is the superior format but as we saw with Betamax, the superior format does not always win.