HDBeat Review: Helios HVD2085

DVD up-scalers are all the rage these days. They cost all the way from $100 to more than your HDTV does. But what are they?
DVD up-scalers take a standard 480i signal and can present it to the TV in a variety of resolutions. Generally you would want to give the HDTV its native resolution. i.e. most plasmas are 720p so that is what you should set the DVD player for. Most digital TVs can only display one resolution and have scalers built-in, but sometimes they are not that great. These DVD players are designed to help, or replace, those internal scalers which will theoreticaly make a better picture. Will they make the DVDs high-def: no; will your DVDs look better: most will.
Neodigits was kind enough to send us their lastest up-scaling DVD player the HVD2085. This thing is loaded. Up-scaling all the way to 1080p via HDMI and component, 5.1 digital and analog outputs, VGA, and "Smart Play." (more info in the full review). Click on for the full review.
Build and construction
Small and sleek. Those are the only words for this DVD player. The front controls on the right are nice buttons with a good feel. (But who uses these anyways?) The DVD tray is kind of flimsy and somewhat cheap looking. On the other hand, it is smooth and quiet. Lastly, the LCD screen is small and crisp; there is nothing worse than a dark media room being lit up by a bright LCD display.
The real gem of this player is the back. This player has every jack for any type of situation it might be needed for. Check it out. Audio options: standard two channel, 5.1 analog outputs, optical and digital. Video options: composite, s-video, component, VGA, and HDCP compliant HDMI. It is nice to have all these options even though the single HDMI cable can take the place of most of these connections.


Remote
Well the remote looks familiar. It seems to come from the same mold as many older Hitachi's. This is O.K. with us though 'cause if it is good enough for their TVs, it is good enough for a DVD player. The remote has direct buttons for different resolutions. There is no need to go into the menu in order to change from the component jacks to the VGA option. While this is nice to have, it would be very convenient to have them on the player itself. All the buttons tend to be a little small though and while my eye sight is fine, I can see some people having an issue with them. Backlighting would be helpful with smaller buttons.
Menu
I am in love with this menu. There is nothing worse than a slow, bloated menu. (besides a bright LCD display in a dark room of course) This menu is very quick and simple. It gives just enough info without consuming the entire screen. I have a feeling that it might be a love it or hate it thing though. Some people like the menus that give you all sorts of options and looks a little more fancy, but the cool thing about doing a review is that it is my call and I love it.
The content is more important about the looks though. The menu system lets you quickly change everything from the resolution to "Smart Play." (almost to the explanation) Did I mention it is very quick?

Video playback and picture quality
This is what you came here fort; you want to know if this DVD player will look better on your HDTV, right? Well, my friend, I have good news. But before we get to the details, lets explain one of the coolest feature of this player. "Smart Play" is an option that allows the player to skip all the previews and menus and go right to the movie. It's cool.Back to the picture quality. Many of you are skeptical about how much an up-scaler can do for you and so was one of my best friends, Dan. He was kind enough to let me use his 51-inch Hitachi while my 36-inch Sony was being serviced. (doesn't accept any high-def input - very frustrating) We sat down and watched a couple of movies one afternoon.
First, we watched The Matrix: Reloaded on his Sony DVP-NS725P. This player was hooked up with Monster Video 2 (let the flaming begin) component cables and set to progressive scan. The movie looked great. It was colorful and the sharpness was fine. We were both satisfied with the picture and skeptical that the Helios could produce a better image.
So we then popped another copy of the movie in the Helios to compare the image. First, we picked the scene were Neo has to fight off hundreds of Mr. Smiths. The results: the Sony produced a great image and there was not any noticeable increase in detail from the Helios. In fact, the background often appeared more "noisy" from the Helios. There was one very noticeable difference however, the Helios was a lot smoother. We didn't even notice that there was a problem when we watched the movie the first time, but then the Helios was played, it was very obvious.
This smoother picture become even more evident during the highway scene. The picture was just a lot smoother. I am not even going to speculate why this is the case (maybe 3:2 pull down) but after watching the Helios the Sony kind of made us nauseous.
We came to almost the same conclusion about King Kong. While it was still a smoother image, there was a slight increase in detail. It needs to be noted that the computer generated items, like Kong himself, was not where it was noticed but rather in the "real" details. Naomi Watts face was sharper and more detailed, but the Helios did nothing to make those nasty bugs look real. This has to be in part that the image of King Kong and the giant bugs were generated to look good at a specific resolution.
Rating this DVD player is a tough decision. Was it better than a higher-end 480p Sony: yes; was it better enough that my buddy Dan was going to throw out his Sony and buy one of these: not really. The images were, by far, smoother and they were clearer most of the time. This players claim to fame though was that it increased the resolution of the DVDs and for that, it did not produce a very noticeable difference.

Overview
This is a very good DVD player. It stands up against one of the better DVD players out there and produced a smoother image. Was it unfair to match this up against a standard DVD instead of another up-scaler; I don't think so. That is what many of you have questioned.The player is well built with a good amount of options. You cannot ask for a more hookup friendly player and it gives you a lot of setup options. The menu is quick and simply. The most important detail though is the picture. It was in fact smoother and generally had more detail then a standard 480p DVD player.
HDBeat can give this DVD player a solid recommendation.

Side test
In true scientific style, I set up a single blind test at a local major electronics store. (note: the results had no effect on my personal review) The Helios player was hooked up to a new 42-inch Panasonic TH-42PX60U through an Onkyo TX-SR703 via component cables and compared against the stores best DVD player: a Harmon Kardon DVD 22. The receiver allowed me to quickly switch between the two players with out giving away the true source of the picture.Both players were feed the stores demo disc and cued up to the same scene with a ±7 second delay. This allowed people to pick out something specific to judge. These scenes were short little clips and the first up was Master and Commander. Everyone liked the outline of Russel Crowes face better on the Helios and the dust from the cannon fire was "less blurry" on the Helios. The color was even better then the Harmon Kardon.
Next up, was the scene from Band of Brothers. It was the part of the series just before the air drop when they were riding in their transport planes. Everyone noticed that the image was smoother and just a bit clearer.
By this point everyone was in love with the player on Video 1 and they were sure it was the HK, but it wasn't, Video 1 was the Helios. On of the participant said it best though, "I wouldn't throw out my current DVD player just to buy this one, but if it died, I would buy this one."























Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Greg @ Apr 12th 2006 9:24AM
"most plasmas are 720p"
I do not know the situation in the states, but here in europe, most plasmas have a native resolution of either 852x480, 1024x1024, or 1024x768. In the higher price range, i see many with a 1366x768 resolution, but i never saw one that is 1280x720 native.
Could you point me where i can find one of those 720p PDPs ?
Besides that, that is one good review. Maybe you could compare it with the Oppo ?
leo prieto @ Apr 12th 2006 9:59AM
Great review, but you failed to test or mention how the HVDs are. These are special DVDs, mostly found only in Hong Kong (or Online), that can do 720p.
The Helios can play those (that's why it's called "HVD"2035).
http://www.neodigits.com/body/product/HVD108/hvds.asp
uratewl @ Apr 12th 2006 10:03AM
Great review. I've just started evaluating the move to an up-scaler DVD player, so the timing of this article was right on.
I am curious however about how this DVD player compares to some of the up-scaler DVD players at my local retailer from well known Manufacturers like Sony and Toshiba. The only upfront benifit I see is the number of connections this player provides, but since I have an extra DVI input I only need to HDMI connection.
Did you have a chance to compare to the other up-scalers? They are around a hundred dollars less so it would be nice to know.
But again, please don't take this the wrong way, the review was great. Just looking for a little more info.
mike sveda @ Apr 12th 2006 10:14AM
I would get this *IF* I needed a new dvd player since it upconverts over component video. My Hitachi 43" CRT HDTV does not have DVI or HDMI.
Joseph Moore @ Apr 12th 2006 10:32AM
You really should have tested with the HDMI cable. Typically (like the Samsung and Oppo players) this yields far superior results since the signal is least molested this way, and is one of the best features of these upscalers. I know that my Oppo connected via HDMI to an Optoma H79 yields a vastly different image than a standard def component player.
Matt Burns @ Apr 12th 2006 10:40AM
leo - NeoDigits is going to send us a HVD to demo. We are going to review this disc as soon as we get it in.
Matt Burns @ Apr 12th 2006 10:43AM
uratewl - We must be thinking on the same page. I am working on getting a few of these up-scalers to have a complete overview of what is offered.
I hope to have this done with in 3-4 weeks. Lots of planning you know.
pete @ Apr 12th 2006 10:44AM
I'm pretty sure that you can't pass 1080p over component.
Might want to check that out...
Matt Burns @ Apr 12th 2006 10:46AM
Greg - Maybe I should have stated it differently. The high definition standard works with the horizontal resolution of 720 lines.
Check out this link to wikipedia that shows all the different resolution standards at the bottom of the page. Thanks for the question though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Definition_Video
Matt Burns @ Apr 12th 2006 10:48AM
Joseph - Good check. The original review with the Hitachi RPTV was in deed done with HDMI. I need to put that in.
Matt Burns @ Apr 12th 2006 10:52AM
pete - This player can in fact pass 1080p over component. I didn't have access to a TV that can accept 1080p but I can tell you that the Sony SXRD that I hooked it up to did not accept the signal; just like it is suppose to.
Check out this link to its product page from NeoDigits. (2nd bullet)
http://www.neodigits.com/new/body/products/HVD2085/specs.asp
ventivent @ Apr 12th 2006 11:44AM
Does it play XviD or DivX? Also, is the audio fed from the HDMI port 2-channel analog, or 5.1 digital?
pete @ Apr 12th 2006 12:00PM
Matt-
I wonder how that can even be tested given I am not aware of any display, anywhere that claims it can accept and display a 1080p signal over component.
(I guess there might be some high-end production-grade CRTs that would do it...)
I'm not even sure if component can pass that kind of bandwidth - something's fishy here...
Any engineer-types care to comment?
This very well might be the first (and only) 1080p analog (component) source on the market.
I have the 37" 1080p Westy LCD. In the menus it tells you exactly the resolution of the incoming source. I wonder what it would say if I hooked one of these up...
I'm very skeptical.
Scott B @ Apr 12th 2006 1:32PM
Does this player support sacd and/or dvd-a?
Justin @ Apr 12th 2006 8:59PM
13:
In response to your belief that no current consumer TV will take 1080p over component I would like to point you to the HP Pavillion 1080P sets which will do it (over both component and HDMI but not VGA. It retails for $3500 and up.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=L1798A%23ABA&tab=detailed_specs&storeName=storefronts&landing=entertainment&category=flat_panel_tvs&subcat1=&catLevel=1#defaultAnchor
Ben Hobbs @ Apr 13th 2006 6:10AM
The Chinese EVD's are actually very good, The Migrating Birds is probably the best image I have ever seen from a Disc, and better than many of the 720p Windows Media player demos.
http://www.h3-digital.com
H3 Digital are a smart home automation and home theatre company in Phuket, Thailand.
sti2006 @ Apr 13th 2006 8:00PM
To really see the benefit of upscaling you need to use a screen that is large enough to benefit from the additional resolution. A 42" 1024 x 768 plasma is not really going to benefit that much from upscaling.
I would like to know how the Helios performs hooked-up to a 1080p projector like the Sony VPL-VW100 via HDMI projected onto a 120" screen. That would be a fairer reference screen for a comparison with a non-upscaling DVD player.
clouie @ Apr 17th 2006 11:07AM
I bought one from HKFLIX for $199 and have it hooked up to my 37" Protron LCD via HDMI. The picture is great, better than my progressive Malata. I bought the Helios because it is region free and the upconversion. Also, the reviewer touched on it briefly, but the "Smart Play" is one of its better features. You know those annoying FBI/legal disclaimers that you can't fast forward through? Well, on the Helios, its sayonara! Just zip through it like you would on any preview. For the price, you can't beat all the features.
JT @ Apr 27th 2006 1:11PM
My biggest beef with my standard 'ol Toshiba DVD player (connected via component) is that whether I put a "standard" or "widescreen" format DVD in, my new 42" HD Plasma TV (The Dell W4200HD w/ a native resolution of 1024x768) will not utilize the entire screen to display the image. Sure, I can use the "zoom" option on the TV, but this cuts the sides out and the image quality suffers. So, is there a DVD up-scaler player that I can buy which will allow my DVD collection to utilize the entire screen while maintaining a quality image? That's really all I want. I have an open DVI port. It seems everyone loves that OPPO, but this one seems to have the ability to transmit in my TV's native resolution (1024x768). Thanks in advance.
Todd @ Apr 29th 2006 12:51PM
What about this players lack of 3:2 pulldown? I currently own the HP m5880n that can actually accept 1080p input. I'm thinking about this player but I have read a number of bad reviews about it. On paper this player looks great and I think it would be great to have a player that will upconvert to 1080p but I wonder if it will look better than the Oppo player at 1080i.
Rogelio Cortez @ May 24th 2006 9:50AM
This is in response on how HVD quality look like, this post might help all those inquiries. I am one of the lucky owners of Helios HVD 2085 Upscaling Player. As I've tried playing standard DVDs and upscaled through my LCD native resolution of 720p, I can say it's superb. The details are more refine, actions are lot smoother, edges are refined with no jaggies on diagonal pictures and colours are truly vibrant.
Few days ago I received my order of HVDs along with my 3 FREE additional titles in relation to their promo (BUY HELIOS player get 3 FREE HVD titles). So upon its arrival I put it in on the player, I can't believe my eyes on the introduction, it was a true high definition. The picture is stunning which I may say a lot better on standard DVD titles which natively encoded on 480p/ These HVDs are encoded on 720p res. on a DVD9 disc, how does it fit? According on their articles, they are using a unique compression tool to fit these huge size of files into a 10GB disk and removing special features such as trailers, the making etc, but keeping all audio quality ACR 5.1.DD/DTS with subtitles (Chinese and English Only)
So, as being stunned I've taken some pics on actual movies for your review. Please note that I've only use 2.0Mp camera so the pics might be delusive/.
These movies are taken on "The Watcher", "Breaking Through", "Hero" unfortunately they have only titles to choose from so I'm reqesting them to produce more out from DVD libraries.
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MikeWarner @ Jun 21st 2006 10:51AM
I bought a Samsung 40" HD LCD TV a few weeks back and got a free Samsung Upscaling DVD Recorder with it. I figured I could stick it on eBay, but I gave it a try and it easily out performed my award winning Pioneer DVD player. I agree with the comments in the review above - smoother and better detail, especially in faces and alone lines where there is a large contrast different (i.e. first scene of iRobot - Will Smith arm against the sunlight in the backround).
The thing is, the Pioneer is a great DVD player, but it out done by upscaling, not by quality components. A combination of the two would be best - i.e. the new Pioneer DVD upscalers.