http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/ Engadget HD Comments for High definition DVD war over? HP formally asks Blu-ray group to add Managed Copy, iHD to spec http://www.engadgethd.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgethd.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 19th 2005 6:50PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 19th 2005 9:32PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 19th 2005 11:36PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 20th 2005 12:04AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 20th 2005 12:05AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
Oh Well.]]>Oct 20th 2005 3:04AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
http://www.hdbeat.com/2005/10/05/intel-to-blu-ray-do-u-like-me-check-yes-or-no/

I wondered how serious they might be about supporting Blu-ray, and now we've got someone from the Blu-ray side if not exactly sticking an olive branch out, at least advancing the possibility.

Bob may have also failed to note that this is not an article, but a press release from HP (plus my comments at the top), so all information in it came from them, and not journalistic speculation.

If bob is a member of the Blu-ray Disk Association, and for all I know he may be (ha) then I would definitely make a post about him calling for a compromise, drop a line in the tips form.]]>Oct 20th 2005 3:12AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
I think there is some shady behind-the-scenes deals going on between MS and HP here.]]>Oct 20th 2005 7:45AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
Microsoft and HP won't make a dime on movie sales. But they'll do well if people upgrade to media center PCs and xbox 360 so they can drop a movie they bought in once and watch it anytime later on any tv in the house without the hassle of finding and maintaining the physical disk.

The movie companies are worried they won't make as much if the above scenario comes true. They want you to lose and scratch your disk and have to maintain each physical copy. They're hoping their sales will be higher if it's locked up so tight that you can't copy or stream the content.]]>Oct 20th 2005 1:49PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
And Bob is quite ignorant for such an outburst from a piece that was NOT an opinion, but an obvious press release.]]>Oct 20th 2005 7:25PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 20th 2005 10:54PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/> "I dont like that people steal movies now and I dont think it should be allowed with High def dvd's. If they use iHD then it will be to easy to steal and pirate movies, which is what movies are fighting now and alot of the reason movies are as high as they are, You can disagree if you want but if you think you dont pay for theft in alot of businesses and products your out of your mind, Everyone honest pays for those that are dishonest, they just mark up product prices to make sure they dont lose any money on it."

Movie prices are higher {more expensive} because of Piracy?? WTF are you Smoking, and please pass it to the left. What country are you talking about? Please be honest with yourself and others when I ask you to think about what you have paid for Media over the last decade or 2. In the USA, store bought commercial movies have ALWAYS been around $20.00. Even when they were VHS tapes they were $20.00; unless they are special editions with extra features more video etc... CD production is another Very good example of this. They have always been, and will always be $20.00. Because teenagers, usually have a 20 spot on them. According to your modus of thinking though, CD's should currently be around $50.00 per commercial disk, due to the prevalence of Music Swapping and file sharing. Which is done on par, way way more than movies due to file sizes? But, nice try to misinform the public. I bet you work for the RIAA don’t you? Spreading lies where ever you can. :-) Now how much does it cost to make a CD? I dunno what Molester you get your blanks from, but it only costs me 1 cent to legally back-up my audio disks, and only .25 Cents to legally back-up my Movies. By LAW you are entitled to 1 copy of everything you own. PERIOD! Furthermore, do you think that when the technology got cheaper for the RIAA or ANY Label {Music, Movie, etc...} for that matter; that we would see a price break? Absolutely not. Why not you may ask? Because these company’s are GREEDY!! That’s a Capital G. They are currently as I write this; attempting to lobby congress to make the next generation DVD and CD players charge you, the consumer for each play of the disk. Anyone remember DIVX?? NO not the codex, and AVI Encoding format. DIVX the Circuit City / Movie Industry backed DVD format that charged you for each play of the disk. If you don’t remember it, there’s a reason for that. The Consumers that were in the “Know” said “Heck no, we will NOT pay you, for every viewing of your movie.” Where in Hades do you think that format came from? Who do you think was the brainiac that thought that one up? Well it wasn’t Circuit City, that’s for sure. They {The Movie and Audio Industry} will try anything and everything to get more money out of you. Not because they need it, but because they can. It truly is, JUST THAT SIMPLE. Need another example? Go fill your car up, with Gas. As to your argument that we as consumers pay more because of Piracy?? Why then Patrick, did we still have to pay 20.00 for any piece of media back in 1995, before the commercial Internet?? IOW, before Piracy. You state this as if it were fact, and its not!! HAVE you checked the price of a theatre Movie lately??!?!? I assume that your statement is all encompassing into the Theatre Movies as well? Here and here ONLY, you might have a Point. As Theatre Movie prices seem to increase disproportionately to the rest of the market. I can’t seem to get my girl and me out of ANY Theatre Movie for under $30.00. The movie industry will ALWAYS charge you just as much as they think they can get away with. Dude, that’s just THE AMERICAN WAY. It’s not due in small nor large part, to piracy. Yes if I was an artist, and I knew someone was pirating my media, I’d be quite miffed. But to say that the Media giants are charging us more due to Piracy is just asinine. Even if Piracy had never happened, they would still TRY to charge us more, under the guise of Inflation, or Gas Prices, or some other Bull Fecal Matter excuse. It all boils down to the same sludge, Company’s will do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, until we as consumers force them to change, or force the lawmakers to make a law against it. This too, IS THE AMERICAN WAY.

>>Sorry for the book, Patrick's naivety touched a nerve.]]>Oct 21st 2005 2:27AMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/Oct 21st 2005 6:47PMhttp://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/http://www.engadgethd.com/2005/10/19/newsbreak-hp-formally-asks-blu-ray-group-to-add-managed-copy/
Generation X, Y, Z, etc. are technology savvy and they will continue to grow in importance as a target consumer segment, therefore taking content on the road, manipulating, and being able to back it up will not stop being of great importance. The big guys better find a way for us to do that with our legal copies, because whoever doesn't surely will be in trouble.]]>Oct 23rd 2005 11:11AM